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Date: 03 Nov 2006 22:15:28
From: Scott S.
Subject: College Chem Course/Brewing


Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical
Engineering.
Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week
generally kits.
Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient.

What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides ingredient
weights, temperatures, OG/SG)?

Thanks






 
Date: 04 Nov 2006 01:01:43
From: Brian Foster
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing



"Scott S." <streiker@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:4cP2h.824$7F3.37@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
> Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical
> Engineering.
> Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week
> generally kits.
> Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient.
>
> What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides ingredient
> weights, temperatures, OG/SG)?
>
> Thanks
>

You need to split into 2 groups. One group drinks the beer that is being
made and the other group drinks a placebo (water or near bear).

Then see which group gets laid.......


You did say it was a college course. If more of my college courses had been
focused on drinking beer and getting laid my grades would have been much
better.




 
Date: 03 Nov 2006 15:07:45
From: Scott L
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing


Scott S. wrote:
> Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical
> Engineering.
> Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week
> generally kits.
> Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient.
>
> What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides ingredient
> weights, temperatures, OG/SG)?

Maybe look at concentrations of acetaldehyde, dimethyl sulfide, and
diacetyl in the finished product? Just for starters..

Scott



 
Date: 05 Nov 2006 09:28:52
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing



"Scott S." <streiker@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:4cP2h.824$7F3.37@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
> Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical
> Engineering.
> Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week
> generally kits.
> Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient.
>
> What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides ingredient
> weights, temperatures, OG/SG)?
>

There are so many variables in brewing and almost all of it can be tracked,
measured, tested and / or observed. It would pretty much depend on what your
desired objective is.

Mark R




  
Date: 05 Nov 2006 16:40:09
From: Scott S.
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing


AND WHAT are your suggestions? Specifically, what would you measure and
what are protocols, instruments, lab equipment you suggest for these
protocols?
"Mark R" <marknorayspam@noev1spam.net > wrote in message
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>
> "Scott S." <streiker@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:4cP2h.824$7F3.37@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>> Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical
>> Engineering.
>> Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week
>> generally kits.
>> Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient.
>>
>> What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides ingredient
>> weights, temperatures, OG/SG)?
>>
>
> There are so many variables in brewing and almost all of it can be
> tracked,
> measured, tested and / or observed. It would pretty much depend on what
> your
> desired objective is.
>
> Mark R
>
>




 
Date: 05 Nov 2006 19:54:04
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing


Scott S. <streiker@sbcglobal.net > wrote:

> Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical
> Engineering.
> Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week
> generally kits.
> Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient.
>
> What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides ingredient
> weights, temperatures, OG/SG)?

While this is a excellent newsgroup, it is not an optimal place
for developing the syllabus of a academic course. I suggest you
refer to http://beertown.org/education/schools.html for a list of
schools and institutes. In particular, I suggest you contact
The American Brewers Guild
The American Craftbrewers Academy
The Institute of Brewing & Distilling
The Master Brewer's Association of the Americas
Siebel Institute of Technology & World Brewing Academy
University of California-Davis - Extension program
University of California-Davis - Campus program

Teaching college students to brew beer is a great idea because
we all know you cannot maintain a 'C' average and a bar bill.

Dick


  
Date: 06 Nov 2006 08:08:27
From: Jim
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing


Dick Adams wrote on 11/5/2006 2:54 PM:
> Scott S. <streiker@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical
>> Engineering.
>> Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week
>> generally kits.
>> Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient.
>>
>> What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides ingredient
>> weights, temperatures, OG/SG)?
>
> While this is a excellent newsgroup, it is not an optimal place
> for developing the syllabus of a academic course. I suggest you
> refer to http://beertown.org/education/schools.html for a list of
> schools and institutes. In particular, I suggest you contact
> The American Brewers Guild
> The American Craftbrewers Academy
> The Institute of Brewing & Distilling
> The Master Brewer's Association of the Americas
> Siebel Institute of Technology & World Brewing Academy
> University of California-Davis - Extension program
> University of California-Davis - Campus program
>
> Teaching college students to brew beer is a great idea because
> we all know you cannot maintain a 'C' average and a bar bill.
>
> Dick

OR If you are designing a course, try reading a frickin book! You wonder
why education sucks, its because ppl are building courses from
newsgroups. :)

Jim


   
Date: 06 Nov 2006 16:33:26
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing


Jim <Jim@no.com > wrote:
> Dick Adams <rdadams@smart.net) wrote:
>> Scott S. <streiker@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>>> Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical
>>> Engineering.
>>> Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week
>>> generally kits.
>>> Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient.
>>>
>>> What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides ingredient
>>> weights, temperatures, OG/SG)?

>> While this is a excellent newsgroup, it is not an optimal place
>> for developing the syllabus of a academic course. I suggest you
>> refer to http://beertown.org/education/schools.html for a list of
>> schools and institutes. In particular, I suggest you contact
>> The American Brewers Guild
>> The American Craftbrewers Academy
>> The Institute of Brewing & Distilling
>> The Master Brewer's Association of the Americas
>> Siebel Institute of Technology & World Brewing Academy
>> University of California-Davis - Extension program
>> University of California-Davis - Campus program
>>
>> Teaching college students to brew beer is a great idea because
>> we all know you cannot maintain a 'C' average and a bar bill.

> OR If you are designing a course, try reading a frickin book!
> You wonder why education sucks, its because ppl are building
> courses from newsgroups. :)

My presumption was that Scott was a University Professor
looking for assistance on developing a course we'd all like
to see.

Before I took disability retirement, I developed a two semester
sequence on the history of Baseball. If I could drive, I have
two Universities and a community College that would like me to
present it. I used listservs and newsgroups to collect resourses.
Ten Professors sent me their syllabi and some gave me their
course materials. This method also enabled me to identify
retired players, coaches, managers, scouts, and administrators
who lived within 20 miles. My academic expertise is in Auditing
which means I educated people to become bastards. :)

Dick


    
Date: 06 Nov 2006 22:19:18
From: Scott S.
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing


Oh by the way

Educatiuon is like life, and, with a bit if irony and scarasm, life is like
a sewer...
You get out of it what you put into it.

"Dick Adams" <rdadams@smart.net > wrote in message
news:12kuoum6givlc70@corp.supernews.com...
> Jim <Jim@no.com> wrote:
>> Dick Adams <rdadams@smart.net) wrote:
>>> Scott S. <streiker@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>>> Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical
>>>> Engineering.
>>>> Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week
>>>> generally kits.
>>>> Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient.
>>>>
>>>> What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides
>>>> ingredient
>>>> weights, temperatures, OG/SG)?
>
>>> While this is a excellent newsgroup, it is not an optimal place
>>> for developing the syllabus of a academic course. I suggest you
>>> refer to http://beertown.org/education/schools.html for a list of
>>> schools and institutes. In particular, I suggest you contact
>>> The American Brewers Guild
>>> The American Craftbrewers Academy
>>> The Institute of Brewing & Distilling
>>> The Master Brewer's Association of the Americas
>>> Siebel Institute of Technology & World Brewing Academy
>>> University of California-Davis - Extension program
>>> University of California-Davis - Campus program
>>>
>>> Teaching college students to brew beer is a great idea because
>>> we all know you cannot maintain a 'C' average and a bar bill.
>
>> OR If you are designing a course, try reading a frickin book!
>> You wonder why education sucks, its because ppl are building
>> courses from newsgroups. :)
>
> My presumption was that Scott was a University Professor
> looking for assistance on developing a course we'd all like
> to see.
>
> Before I took disability retirement, I developed a two semester
> sequence on the history of Baseball. If I could drive, I have
> two Universities and a community College that would like me to
> present it. I used listservs and newsgroups to collect resourses.
> Ten Professors sent me their syllabi and some gave me their
> course materials. This method also enabled me to identify
> retired players, coaches, managers, scouts, and administrators
> who lived within 20 miles. My academic expertise is in Auditing
> which means I educated people to become bastards. :)
>
> Dick




   
Date: 06 Nov 2006 22:09:04
From: Scott S.
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing


Jim... sorry you find anything that you can/wish to find offensive with my
requerst for info to plan a chem engineering curriculum for a college
course.

AND all others who read this posting. Thanks for your help. All positive
input, advice, offers that help create syllabus education and personal
growth is really appreicated.

To all thoise from the profession that have contacted me directly at mu lab
or home e-mail with info, offers of support and well-ished, including
laboratory protiocols, THANKS! Your interest is well appreciated.I,

"Jim" <Jim@no.com > wrote in message
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> Dick Adams wrote on 11/5/2006 2:54 PM:
>> Scott S. <streiker@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical
>>> Engineering.
>>> Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week
>>> generally kits.
>>> Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient.
>>>
>>> What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides
>>> ingredient weights, temperatures, OG/SG)?
>>
>> While this is a excellent newsgroup, it is not an optimal place for
>> developing the syllabus of a academic course. I suggest you
>> refer to http://beertown.org/education/schools.html for a list of
>> schools and institutes. In particular, I suggest you contact The
>> American Brewers Guild
>> The American Craftbrewers Academy
>> The Institute of Brewing & Distilling
>> The Master Brewer's Association of the Americas
>> Siebel Institute of Technology & World Brewing Academy
>> University of California-Davis - Extension program
>> University of California-Davis - Campus program
>>
>> Teaching college students to brew beer is a great idea because
>> we all know you cannot maintain a 'C' average and a bar bill.
>>
>> Dick
>
> OR If you are designing a course, try reading a frickin book! You wonder
> why education sucks, its because ppl are building courses from newsgroups.
> :)
>
> Jim