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Date: 03 Nov 2006 22:15:28
From: Scott S.
Subject: College Chem Course/Brewing
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Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical Engineering. Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week generally kits. Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient. What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides ingredient weights, temperatures, OG/SG)? Thanks
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Date: 04 Nov 2006 01:01:43
From: Brian Foster
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing
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"Scott S." <streiker@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message news:4cP2h.824$7F3.37@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical > Engineering. > Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week > generally kits. > Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient. > > What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides ingredient > weights, temperatures, OG/SG)? > > Thanks > You need to split into 2 groups. One group drinks the beer that is being made and the other group drinks a placebo (water or near bear). Then see which group gets laid....... You did say it was a college course. If more of my college courses had been focused on drinking beer and getting laid my grades would have been much better.
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Date: 03 Nov 2006 15:07:45
From: Scott L
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing
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Scott S. wrote: > Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical > Engineering. > Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week > generally kits. > Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient. > > What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides ingredient > weights, temperatures, OG/SG)? Maybe look at concentrations of acetaldehyde, dimethyl sulfide, and diacetyl in the finished product? Just for starters.. Scott
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 09:28:52
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing
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"Scott S." <streiker@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message news:4cP2h.824$7F3.37@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical > Engineering. > Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week > generally kits. > Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient. > > What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides ingredient > weights, temperatures, OG/SG)? > There are so many variables in brewing and almost all of it can be tracked, measured, tested and / or observed. It would pretty much depend on what your desired objective is. Mark R
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 16:40:09
From: Scott S.
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing
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AND WHAT are your suggestions? Specifically, what would you measure and what are protocols, instruments, lab equipment you suggest for these protocols? "Mark R" <marknorayspam@noev1spam.net > wrote in message news:12ks0pn5cap2h8e@corp.supernews.com... > > "Scott S." <streiker@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:4cP2h.824$7F3.37@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... >> Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical >> Engineering. >> Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week >> generally kits. >> Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient. >> >> What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides ingredient >> weights, temperatures, OG/SG)? >> > > There are so many variables in brewing and almost all of it can be > tracked, > measured, tested and / or observed. It would pretty much depend on what > your > desired objective is. > > Mark R > >
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Date: 05 Nov 2006 19:54:04
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing
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Scott S. <streiker@sbcglobal.net > wrote: > Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical > Engineering. > Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week > generally kits. > Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient. > > What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides ingredient > weights, temperatures, OG/SG)? While this is a excellent newsgroup, it is not an optimal place for developing the syllabus of a academic course. I suggest you refer to http://beertown.org/education/schools.html for a list of schools and institutes. In particular, I suggest you contact The American Brewers Guild The American Craftbrewers Academy The Institute of Brewing & Distilling The Master Brewer's Association of the Americas Siebel Institute of Technology & World Brewing Academy University of California-Davis - Extension program University of California-Davis - Campus program Teaching college students to brew beer is a great idea because we all know you cannot maintain a 'C' average and a bar bill. Dick
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 08:08:27
From: Jim
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing
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Dick Adams wrote on 11/5/2006 2:54 PM: > Scott S. <streiker@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical >> Engineering. >> Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week >> generally kits. >> Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient. >> >> What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides ingredient >> weights, temperatures, OG/SG)? > > While this is a excellent newsgroup, it is not an optimal place > for developing the syllabus of a academic course. I suggest you > refer to http://beertown.org/education/schools.html for a list of > schools and institutes. In particular, I suggest you contact > The American Brewers Guild > The American Craftbrewers Academy > The Institute of Brewing & Distilling > The Master Brewer's Association of the Americas > Siebel Institute of Technology & World Brewing Academy > University of California-Davis - Extension program > University of California-Davis - Campus program > > Teaching college students to brew beer is a great idea because > we all know you cannot maintain a 'C' average and a bar bill. > > Dick OR If you are designing a course, try reading a frickin book! You wonder why education sucks, its because ppl are building courses from newsgroups. :) Jim
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 16:33:26
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing
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Jim <Jim@no.com > wrote: > Dick Adams <rdadams@smart.net) wrote: >> Scott S. <streiker@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical >>> Engineering. >>> Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week >>> generally kits. >>> Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient. >>> >>> What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides ingredient >>> weights, temperatures, OG/SG)? >> While this is a excellent newsgroup, it is not an optimal place >> for developing the syllabus of a academic course. I suggest you >> refer to http://beertown.org/education/schools.html for a list of >> schools and institutes. In particular, I suggest you contact >> The American Brewers Guild >> The American Craftbrewers Academy >> The Institute of Brewing & Distilling >> The Master Brewer's Association of the Americas >> Siebel Institute of Technology & World Brewing Academy >> University of California-Davis - Extension program >> University of California-Davis - Campus program >> >> Teaching college students to brew beer is a great idea because >> we all know you cannot maintain a 'C' average and a bar bill. > OR If you are designing a course, try reading a frickin book! > You wonder why education sucks, its because ppl are building > courses from newsgroups. :) My presumption was that Scott was a University Professor looking for assistance on developing a course we'd all like to see. Before I took disability retirement, I developed a two semester sequence on the history of Baseball. If I could drive, I have two Universities and a community College that would like me to present it. I used listservs and newsgroups to collect resourses. Ten Professors sent me their syllabi and some gave me their course materials. This method also enabled me to identify retired players, coaches, managers, scouts, and administrators who lived within 20 miles. My academic expertise is in Auditing which means I educated people to become bastards. :) Dick
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 22:19:18
From: Scott S.
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing
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Oh by the way Educatiuon is like life, and, with a bit if irony and scarasm, life is like a sewer... You get out of it what you put into it. "Dick Adams" <rdadams@smart.net > wrote in message news:12kuoum6givlc70@corp.supernews.com... > Jim <Jim@no.com> wrote: >> Dick Adams <rdadams@smart.net) wrote: >>> Scott S. <streiker@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >>>> Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical >>>> Engineering. >>>> Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week >>>> generally kits. >>>> Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient. >>>> >>>> What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides >>>> ingredient >>>> weights, temperatures, OG/SG)? > >>> While this is a excellent newsgroup, it is not an optimal place >>> for developing the syllabus of a academic course. I suggest you >>> refer to http://beertown.org/education/schools.html for a list of >>> schools and institutes. In particular, I suggest you contact >>> The American Brewers Guild >>> The American Craftbrewers Academy >>> The Institute of Brewing & Distilling >>> The Master Brewer's Association of the Americas >>> Siebel Institute of Technology & World Brewing Academy >>> University of California-Davis - Extension program >>> University of California-Davis - Campus program >>> >>> Teaching college students to brew beer is a great idea because >>> we all know you cannot maintain a 'C' average and a bar bill. > >> OR If you are designing a course, try reading a frickin book! >> You wonder why education sucks, its because ppl are building >> courses from newsgroups. :) > > My presumption was that Scott was a University Professor > looking for assistance on developing a course we'd all like > to see. > > Before I took disability retirement, I developed a two semester > sequence on the history of Baseball. If I could drive, I have > two Universities and a community College that would like me to > present it. I used listservs and newsgroups to collect resourses. > Ten Professors sent me their syllabi and some gave me their > course materials. This method also enabled me to identify > retired players, coaches, managers, scouts, and administrators > who lived within 20 miles. My academic expertise is in Auditing > which means I educated people to become bastards. :) > > Dick
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Date: 06 Nov 2006 22:09:04
From: Scott S.
Subject: Re: College Chem Course/Brewing
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Jim... sorry you find anything that you can/wish to find offensive with my requerst for info to plan a chem engineering curriculum for a college course. AND all others who read this posting. Thanks for your help. All positive input, advice, offers that help create syllabus education and personal growth is really appreicated. To all thoise from the profession that have contacted me directly at mu lab or home e-mail with info, offers of support and well-ished, including laboratory protiocols, THANKS! Your interest is well appreciated.I, "Jim" <Jim@no.com > wrote in message news:NuG3h.10109$GU5.768@bignews8.bellsouth.net... > Dick Adams wrote on 11/5/2006 2:54 PM: >> Scott S. <streiker@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> Suggestions please for science lab mneasurable for course in Chemical >>> Engineering. >>> Students are already brewing beer, 3 to a group, new brew each week >>> generally kits. >>> Batches week to week alter one step and or ingredient. >>> >>> What woulkd you suggest as measurable and observables (besides >>> ingredient weights, temperatures, OG/SG)? >> >> While this is a excellent newsgroup, it is not an optimal place for >> developing the syllabus of a academic course. I suggest you >> refer to http://beertown.org/education/schools.html for a list of >> schools and institutes. In particular, I suggest you contact The >> American Brewers Guild >> The American Craftbrewers Academy >> The Institute of Brewing & Distilling >> The Master Brewer's Association of the Americas >> Siebel Institute of Technology & World Brewing Academy >> University of California-Davis - Extension program >> University of California-Davis - Campus program >> >> Teaching college students to brew beer is a great idea because >> we all know you cannot maintain a 'C' average and a bar bill. >> >> Dick > > OR If you are designing a course, try reading a frickin book! You wonder > why education sucks, its because ppl are building courses from newsgroups. > :) > > Jim
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