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Date: 21 Oct 2006 17:56:57
From: spleenminus@yahoo.com
Subject: Cider questions
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Hi,
I started my apple, pear and sour cherry cider a couple of weeks ago.
I transferred to secondary at the begining of this week. I dont see
much activity. Should I at this point? would it be wise to add yeast
nutrient or another packet of yeast?
At what point should I rack to another carboy?
I bought ssome more cider on sale and am going to start two more
batches. 1 just apple and I'd like to do 4 gal cider, plus 1/2 to a
full gal of sour cherry juice and some honey. Any recomendations on
how much cherry juice and how much honey?
Thanks!
John
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Date: 22 Oct 2006 09:29:15
From: Bob F
Subject: Re: Cider questions
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<spleenminus@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:upfij2lvevab8o600qte67nouaikj9ms97@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> I started my apple, pear and sour cherry cider a couple of weeks ago.
> I transferred to secondary at the begining of this week. I dont see
> much activity. Should I at this point? would it be wise to add yeast
> nutrient or another packet of yeast?
Check the gravity. It may be done fermenting. My ciders seem to
go to near 1.000 or slighty less.
>
> At what point should I rack to another carboy?
I usually rack my cider only once before kegging. But I'm lazy.
Bob
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Date: 23 Oct 2006 20:14:37
From: spleenminus@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Cider questions
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Thanks,
I checked it and it was down there. not quite at.000, but on its way.
I remember reading here that cider takes 6 mos to a year, so i am not
sure if i should keep re-racking to clarify. Also, i am going to do my
cider/honey/cherry thing. does it matter if i use a 6.5 gal carboy for
secondary as opposed to a 5? i'd prefer to buy 6.5's but i'm not sure
if the extra air will be bad for secondary.
John
On Sun, 22 2006 09:29:15 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com >
wrote:
>
><spleenminus@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:upfij2lvevab8o600qte67nouaikj9ms97@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>> I started my apple, pear and sour cherry cider a couple of weeks ago.
>> I transferred to secondary at the begining of this week. I dont see
>> much activity. Should I at this point? would it be wise to add yeast
>> nutrient or another packet of yeast?
>
>Check the gravity. It may be done fermenting. My ciders seem to
>go to near 1.000 or slighty less.
>>
>> At what point should I rack to another carboy?
>
>I usually rack my cider only once before kegging. But I'm lazy.
>
>Bob
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Date: 24 Oct 2006 16:59:33
From: Bob F
Subject: Re: Cider questions
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<spleenminus@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:mjtqj2dlimvacejb55rt3ch0kn2pj3skrr@4ax.com...
> Thanks,
> I checked it and it was down there. not quite at.000, but on its way.
> I remember reading here that cider takes 6 mos to a year, so i am not
> sure if i should keep re-racking to clarify. Also, i am going to do my
> cider/honey/cherry thing. does it matter if i use a 6.5 gal carboy for
> secondary as opposed to a 5? i'd prefer to buy 6.5's but i'm not sure
> if the extra air will be bad for secondary.
My first batch of cider tasted "sour" to me. I talked to some experienced
friends, who told me to aerate it. I did, and it turned out fine. I don't
think
the aeration changed it. I just learned to like real cider. So I suspect it
won't be a problem.
You will want 5's for beer or wine in the future though. I've got 5 6.5's
and
probably twice that of 5's
Most of my cider I only rack once, and it turns out fine. Maybe it would
be better if I did it more, but I'll probably never know unless someone
proves otherwise to me. I haven't tried adding other fruit.
I just racked 4 primaries to kegs. It remains to be seen how well that will
work out.
Bob
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Date: 25 Oct 2006 17:48:39
From: spleenminus@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Cider questions
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Thanks Bob.
i have been using 6.5's for primary so i dont have to use a blowoff
tube. does the extra air hurt the beer/cider in secondary?
how long do you wait before drinking your ciders?
john
On Tue, 24 2006 16:59:33 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com >
wrote:
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><spleenminus@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:mjtqj2dlimvacejb55rt3ch0kn2pj3skrr@4ax.com...
>> Thanks,
>> I checked it and it was down there. not quite at.000, but on its way.
>> I remember reading here that cider takes 6 mos to a year, so i am not
>> sure if i should keep re-racking to clarify. Also, i am going to do my
>> cider/honey/cherry thing. does it matter if i use a 6.5 gal carboy for
>> secondary as opposed to a 5? i'd prefer to buy 6.5's but i'm not sure
>> if the extra air will be bad for secondary.
>
>My first batch of cider tasted "sour" to me. I talked to some experienced
>friends, who told me to aerate it. I did, and it turned out fine. I don't
>think
>the aeration changed it. I just learned to like real cider. So I suspect it
>won't be a problem.
>
>You will want 5's for beer or wine in the future though. I've got 5 6.5's
>and
>probably twice that of 5's
>
>Most of my cider I only rack once, and it turns out fine. Maybe it would
>be better if I did it more, but I'll probably never know unless someone
>proves otherwise to me. I haven't tried adding other fruit.
>
>I just racked 4 primaries to kegs. It remains to be seen how well that will
>work out.
>
>Bob
>
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 22:45:35
From: Bob F
Subject: Re: Cider questions
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As I said - a major aeration did not destroy my first batch.
I have tried my cider after a couple months and it is quite drinkable.
But I usually leave it in secondary for many months up to a year
or two. It really doesn't seem to make a big difference. It is always
good (Well, almost). Worst case, I mix it with a batch in the
opposite realm, and everything is fixed. Cider is pretty forgiving.
Just try it drink it, and experiment.
Since cider "season" is in the fall for me, and I ferment in the
basement (in Seattle), mt ferment is pretty cool, and not too
wild. If I see the foam getting near the top, I give the carboy
a swirl occasionally to break up the foam so it doesn't reach
the top.
Bob
<spleenminus@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1qtvj2h2cm18rfb2mrgmnlnfm9b813igbb@4ax.com...
> Thanks Bob.
> i have been using 6.5's for primary so i dont have to use a blowoff
> tube. does the extra air hurt the beer/cider in secondary?
> how long do you wait before drinking your ciders?
>
> john
> On Tue, 24 2006 16:59:33 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> ><spleenminus@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:mjtqj2dlimvacejb55rt3ch0kn2pj3skrr@4ax.com...
> >> Thanks,
> >> I checked it and it was down there. not quite at.000, but on its way.
> >> I remember reading here that cider takes 6 mos to a year, so i am not
> >> sure if i should keep re-racking to clarify. Also, i am going to do my
> >> cider/honey/cherry thing. does it matter if i use a 6.5 gal carboy for
> >> secondary as opposed to a 5? i'd prefer to buy 6.5's but i'm not sure
> >> if the extra air will be bad for secondary.
> >
> >My first batch of cider tasted "sour" to me. I talked to some experienced
> >friends, who told me to aerate it. I did, and it turned out fine. I don't
> >think
> >the aeration changed it. I just learned to like real cider. So I suspect
it
> >won't be a problem.
> >
> >You will want 5's for beer or wine in the future though. I've got 5 6.5's
> >and
> >probably twice that of 5's
> >
> >Most of my cider I only rack once, and it turns out fine. Maybe it would
> >be better if I did it more, but I'll probably never know unless someone
> >proves otherwise to me. I haven't tried adding other fruit.
> >
> >I just racked 4 primaries to kegs. It remains to be seen how well that
will
> >work out.
> >
> >Bob
> >
>
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 19:58:47
From: spleenminus@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Cider questions
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Gotcha, I was thinking of a forced oxygen aeration. Thanks for the
help!
I'm excited to try this stuff. smells delicious.
John
On Thu, 26 2006 22:45:35 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com >
wrote:
>As I said - a major aeration did not destroy my first batch.
>
>I have tried my cider after a couple months and it is quite drinkable.
>But I usually leave it in secondary for many months up to a year
>or two. It really doesn't seem to make a big difference. It is always
>good (Well, almost). Worst case, I mix it with a batch in the
>opposite realm, and everything is fixed. Cider is pretty forgiving.
>Just try it drink it, and experiment.
>
>Since cider "season" is in the fall for me, and I ferment in the
>basement (in Seattle), mt ferment is pretty cool, and not too
>wild. If I see the foam getting near the top, I give the carboy
>a swirl occasionally to break up the foam so it doesn't reach
>the top.
>
>Bob
>
><spleenminus@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1qtvj2h2cm18rfb2mrgmnlnfm9b813igbb@4ax.com...
>> Thanks Bob.
>> i have been using 6.5's for primary so i dont have to use a blowoff
>> tube. does the extra air hurt the beer/cider in secondary?
>> how long do you wait before drinking your ciders?
>>
>> john
>> On Tue, 24 2006 16:59:33 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> ><spleenminus@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:mjtqj2dlimvacejb55rt3ch0kn2pj3skrr@4ax.com...
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> I checked it and it was down there. not quite at.000, but on its way.
>> >> I remember reading here that cider takes 6 mos to a year, so i am not
>> >> sure if i should keep re-racking to clarify. Also, i am going to do my
>> >> cider/honey/cherry thing. does it matter if i use a 6.5 gal carboy for
>> >> secondary as opposed to a 5? i'd prefer to buy 6.5's but i'm not sure
>> >> if the extra air will be bad for secondary.
>> >
>> >My first batch of cider tasted "sour" to me. I talked to some experienced
>> >friends, who told me to aerate it. I did, and it turned out fine. I don't
>> >think
>> >the aeration changed it. I just learned to like real cider. So I suspect
>it
>> >won't be a problem.
>> >
>> >You will want 5's for beer or wine in the future though. I've got 5 6.5's
>> >and
>> >probably twice that of 5's
>> >
>> >Most of my cider I only rack once, and it turns out fine. Maybe it would
>> >be better if I did it more, but I'll probably never know unless someone
>> >proves otherwise to me. I haven't tried adding other fruit.
>> >
>> >I just racked 4 primaries to kegs. It remains to be seen how well that
>will
>> >work out.
>> >
>> >Bob
>> >
>>
>
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