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Date: 21 Aug 2006 09:46:01
From: Jim
Subject: Carboy Conical Converter


So this website is touting a converter to make your carboy a conical.
Interesting concept. What are your thoughts?

http://www.undergrounddigital.com/fermentinghardware.htm

Jim




 
Date: 21 Aug 2006 14:53:13
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Carboy Conical Converter


Jim <Jim@no.com > wrote:

> So this website is touting a converter to make your carboy a
> conical. Interesting concept. What are your thoughts?
>
> http://www.undergrounddigital.com/fermentinghardware.htm

Let's start with the fact that a conical fermenter will not
make your beer better.

The sole labor advantage of of a conical is that you avoid
rackiny and are able primary and secondary in the same vessel
by harvesting the yeast. I decided not to get one because
(1) it lacks the 60 degree slope of a conical which causes the
yeast to slide down and I am concerned that yeast will
collect on the horizontal surface above the neck forcing
me to rack anyway; and
(2) the space below the valve and the surface upon which the
toy is mounted doe not appear to be conducive to people
with large hands.

But it is $29.90 plus shipping. So if you want to try it,
go ahead and report back your experience.

Dick


  
Date: 21 Aug 2006 09:16:44
From: Wheat
Subject: Re: Carboy Conical Converter




"Dick Adams" <rdadams@smart.net > wrote in message
news:12eji6pooo8guba@corp.supernews.com...
> Jim <Jim@no.com> wrote:
>
>> So this website is touting a converter to make your carboy a
>> conical. Interesting concept. What are your thoughts?
>>
>> http://www.undergrounddigital.com/fermentinghardware.htm
>
> Let's start with the fact that a conical fermenter will not
> make your beer better.
>
> The sole labor advantage of of a conical is that you avoid
> rackiny and are able primary and secondary in the same vessel
> by harvesting the yeast. I decided not to get one because
> (1) it lacks the 60 degree slope of a conical which causes the
> yeast to slide down and I am concerned that yeast will
> collect on the horizontal surface above the neck forcing
> me to rack anyway; and
> (2) the space below the valve and the surface upon which the
> toy is mounted doe not appear to be conducive to people
> with large hands.

Also there is not enough room under the valve to place a container to catch
the liquid once the valve is opened. A shallow container will splash the
liquid upward and you will have quite a mess to clean up.

You can partially solve this problem by using a plastic bag to hold the
liquid released when opening the valve but you have to be pretty quick to
manipulate the vavle to prevent losing a good quantity of brew.

Elevating the stand will work but it is really not very sturdy and you may
experience a carboy full of youi favorite brew crashing onto the floor as
you attempt to turn it upside down into the stand.

No a pretty picture! <G >

Bill

> But it is $29.90 plus shipping. So if you want to try it,
> go ahead and report back your experience.
>
> Dick




   
Date: 23 Aug 2006 19:39:32
From: hankus
Subject: Re: Carboy Conical Converter


Same old same old...Google will show you what a waste this is...and wht's
wrong with siphoning to a secondary?

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Hank




 
Date: 21 Aug 2006 14:35:59
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Carboy Conical Converter


On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:46:01 -0400, <Jim@no.com > wrote:
> So this website is touting a converter to make your carboy a conical.
> Interesting concept. What are your thoughts?
>
> http://www.undergrounddigital.com/fermentinghardware.htm

Ah, the old "fermentap". It's been discussed on here many times. IMO,
it's completely useless. The sides of a carboy are not steep enough to
make an effective conical. Don't waste your money.


John.


 
Date: 21 Aug 2006 08:58:37
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Carboy Conical Converter


Jim wrote:
> So this website is touting a converter to make your carboy a conical.
> Interesting concept. What are your thoughts?
>
> http://www.undergrounddigital.com/fermentinghardware.htm
>
> Jim

These have been around for a pretty long time. I've never used one
personally, but I've read lot's of comments on them over the years. In
general, most people find that the sides of a carboy don't have a steep
enough slope to effectively remove yeast and trub.

Google groups for "Carboy Conical Converter" for more comments.

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Date: 21 Aug 2006 09:53:53
From: Dan Logcher
Subject: Re: Carboy Conical Converter


Jim wrote:

> So this website is touting a converter to make your carboy a conical.
> Interesting concept. What are your thoughts?
>
> http://www.undergrounddigital.com/fermentinghardware.htm

I think the general consensus was the a glass carboy did not
have the conical shape to make it work.

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Dan