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Date: 22 Aug 2006 19:51:48
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Subject: Caramelized wort on icecream.
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Well, I made a 70 shilling scotch ale the other day with the last of my
freebie LME. I made about 6.5 gallons of wort and then took 1.2 gal
and boiled it down for about 75 min. I took some of it out and dumped
it on some icecream and put the rest back in the main kettle and boiled
for another hour. When I was done I cooled and topped up to 5 gal.
Pitched some wyeast scotch ale on it and it is bubbling away now.
The caramelized wort was OK on the icecream, but it actually worked
better when I just stired up the leftovers when it melted and made a
caramelized wort malted. One thing though, put the hops in the main
boil AFTER you caramelize part of the wort. It was a bit of an odd
flavor. Not really bad, but different. You don't expect a light
bitter taste in icecream.
Bryan
p.s. I apparently remembered some of my experiences from all those
years ago because I didn't scortch it when I was caramelizing it like I
did the first few times I did scotch ales back when.
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 20:29:12
From: Droopy
Subject: Re: Caramelized wort on icecream.
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>From time to time i like a guinness ice cream float.
And Newcastle makes a brown ale flavored ice cream IIRC.
yournotauser@gmail.com wrote:
> Well, I made a 70 shilling scotch ale the other day with the last of my
> freebie LME. I made about 6.5 gallons of wort and then took 1.2 gal
> and boiled it down for about 75 min. I took some of it out and dumped
> it on some icecream and put the rest back in the main kettle and boiled
> for another hour. When I was done I cooled and topped up to 5 gal.
> Pitched some wyeast scotch ale on it and it is bubbling away now.
>
> The caramelized wort was OK on the icecream, but it actually worked
> better when I just stired up the leftovers when it melted and made a
> caramelized wort malted. One thing though, put the hops in the main
> boil AFTER you caramelize part of the wort. It was a bit of an odd
> flavor. Not really bad, but different. You don't expect a light
> bitter taste in icecream.
>
> Bryan
>
> p.s. I apparently remembered some of my experiences from all those
> years ago because I didn't scortch it when I was caramelizing it like I
> did the first few times I did scotch ales back when.
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 06:15:08
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Caramelized wort on icecream.
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Droopy <Droopy68516@yahoo.com > wrote:
> From time to time i like a guinness ice cream float.
> And Newcastle makes a brown ale flavored ice cream IIRC.
It's for Geordie boys to help them cope with the shakes.
Dick
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 08:37:48
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Caramelized wort on icecream.
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yournotauser@gmail.com wrote:
> Well, I made a 70 shilling scotch ale the other day with the last of my
> freebie LME. I made about 6.5 gallons of wort and then took 1.2 gal
> and boiled it down for about 75 min. I took some of it out and dumped
> it on some icecream and put the rest back in the main kettle and boiled
> for another hour. When I was done I cooled and topped up to 5 gal.
> Pitched some wyeast scotch ale on it and it is bubbling away now.
>
> The caramelized wort was OK on the icecream, but it actually worked
> better when I just stired up the leftovers when it melted and made a
> caramelized wort malted. One thing though, put the hops in the main
> boil AFTER you caramelize part of the wort. It was a bit of an odd
> flavor. Not really bad, but different. You don't expect a light
> bitter taste in icecream.
>
> Bryan
I usually carmelize all or part of the first wort for scotch ales
(rather than hopped wort). This tends to go a bit faster, since the
first runnings are more suggar rich to start with.
So far I've managed to avoid the temptation of grabbing a big bowl of
ice cream while carmelizing -- but just barely.
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 08:12:43
From: Richard Kaszeta
Subject: Re: Caramelized wort on icecream.
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yournotauser@gmail.com writes:
> The caramelized wort was OK on the icecream, but it actually worked
> better when I just stired up the leftovers when it melted and made a
> caramelized wort malted. One thing though, put the hops in the main
> boil AFTER you caramelize part of the wort. It was a bit of an odd
> flavor. Not really bad, but different. You don't expect a light
> bitter taste in icecream.
I've gone to the other extreme, and boiled down the wort from my IPA
to make a hops-laden sorbet (after having a similar one at a local
beer dinner).
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Richard W Kaszeta
rich@kaszeta.org
http://www.kaszeta.org/rich
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 14:15:46
From: John Krehbiel
Subject: Re: Caramelized wort on icecream.
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> I usually carmelize all or part of the first wort for scotch ales
>
How much do you collect, and how long do you boil it? I did that and
thought the wort had a nice caramel flavor going into the fermenter,
but was not very satisfied after fermentation. The caramel flavor seems
to have been lost somehow.
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 17:12:45
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Caramelized wort on icecream.
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John Krehbiel wrote:
>>I usually carmelize all or part of the first wort for scotch ales
>>
>
>
> How much do you collect, and how long do you boil it? I did that and
> thought the wort had a nice caramel flavor going into the fermenter,
> but was not very satisfied after fermentation. The caramel flavor seems
> to have been lost somehow.
>
It's a little like making wine -- once the sugar is gone, it doesn;t
taste like grapes; the same goes for caramelization. It's a bit of a
different taste. Orckney Skullsplitter comes to mind. You can give it a
bit more residual sweetnes by mashing high -- if it's a big enough beer,
the dextrins will add a little sweetness.
I have done 1.5 gals of the first runnings, up to ALL of the first
runnings. I've not really noticed any effect (or much of an effect in
smaller beers). Seems more obvious in Wee HEavys.
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