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Date: 28 Nov 2006 13:21:35
From: Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung.
Subject: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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Some friends of mine always bring Miller Lite to my place whenever they
come over. The leftovers just sit in the fridge while I buy, or make,
better beer to drink. I have some Hallertau hop pellets that I haven't
had a use for lately and I was thinking about tossing a couple into a
bottle of Miller and letting it sit for about a week. What do you
suppose the filtered end result will taste like? Ever done anything
like that?
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 03:44:23
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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On 28 Nov 2006 13:21:35 -0800, <k03019454@gmail.com > wrote:
> Some friends of mine always bring Miller Lite to my place whenever they
> come over. The leftovers just sit in the fridge while I buy, or make,
> better beer to drink. I have some Hallertau hop pellets that I haven't
> had a use for lately and I was thinking about tossing a couple into a
> bottle of Miller and letting it sit for about a week. What do you
> suppose the filtered end result will taste like? Ever done anything
> like that?
You'd basically be dry hopping it, which would give you enhanced aroma but
not much flavor and no bitterness. Personally, I think you'd have to go
through so much trouble to make Miller Lite drinkable, that you may as well
just start from scratch and brew your own.
John.
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 16:59:04
From:
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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Youre right. DIfferent stuff. The oil I order from Hop Union is the
pure CO2 extracted hop oils. http://www.hopunion.com/hopoils.shtml
Potent stuff. I use a tiny bit of the EKG variety on a golden ale to a
nice effect.
> >
> > Careful with hop oils. They are very potent. I have used them on
> > occasion and I calculated 3 ML is just about right to get the right PPM
> > for a 15 BBL batch. Anything more is overpowering. And remember, with
> > the oils, you will need to emulsify them first with a 5 to 1 ratio of
> > Vodka or Everclear to Hop oil. Shake it up, then add to beer.
>
> I suspect this is one of those "pro-brewing != homebrewing" things.
> There are hop essences available to homebrewers that are nowhere near
> this powerful, and are much easier to use. I've used these with pretty
> fair results:
>
> http://www.hoptech.com/cart/cart.php?target=category&category_id=300
>
>
>
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 08:21:27
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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harvestwind_73@yahoo.com wrote:
> Youre right. DIfferent stuff. The oil I order from Hop Union is the
> pure CO2 extracted hop oils. http://www.hopunion.com/hopoils.shtml
> Potent stuff. I use a tiny bit of the EKG variety on a golden ale to a
> nice effect.
Of course, having said that, I wouldn't waste these trying to doctor bad
beer -- they're not cheap. I've used the EKG as well to pump up the
aroma and flavor on a couple of beers. Haven't tried the others, though.
>
>>> Careful with hop oils. They are very potent. I have used them on
>>> occasion and I calculated 3 ML is just about right to get the right PPM
>>> for a 15 BBL batch. Anything more is overpowering. And remember, with
>>> the oils, you will need to emulsify them first with a 5 to 1 ratio of
>>> Vodka or Everclear to Hop oil. Shake it up, then add to beer.
>> I suspect this is one of those "pro-brewing != homebrewing" things.
>> There are hop essences available to homebrewers that are nowhere near
>> this powerful, and are much easier to use. I've used these with pretty
>> fair results:
>>
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 00:24:46
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung. <k03019454@gmail.com > wrote:
> Some friends of mine always bring Miller Lite to my place whenever they
> come over. The leftovers just sit in the fridge while I buy, or make,
> better beer to drink. I have some Hallertau hop pellets that I haven't
> had a use for lately and I was thinking about tossing a couple into a
> bottle of Miller and letting it sit for about a week. What do you
> suppose the filtered end result will taste like? Ever done anything
> like that?
Because of the loss of carbonation upon opening, I'd put in one
pellet, let it sit for an hour, and decant it.
Be grateful they didn't leave Coors. Possibly you have neighbors
who would appreciate American Swill.
Dick
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 14:19:36
From:
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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You could always run it into an empty two liter bottle after you filter
it and use the "Carbonater Cap" to recarbonate. It would, at the very
least, be a fun experiment. Hop flowers would be better than pellets.
The pellets will turn into a fine sludge and could make filtering a
pain.
Careful with hop oils. They are very potent. I have used them on
occasion and I calculated 3 ML is just about right to get the right PPM
for a 15 BBL batch. Anything more is overpowering. And remember, with
the oils, you will need to emulsify them first with a 5 to 1 ratio of
Vodka or Everclear to Hop oil. Shake it up, then add to beer.
Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung. wrote:
> I will loose carbonation, but the Miller Lite is just going to waste in
> my fridge. If I loose carbonation but get a good taste out of the
> beer, I'm OK with that.
> Duke wrote:
> > "Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung." <k03019454@gmail.com> wrote in
> > message news:1164750717.054131.221490@45g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> > >I was just gonna pass it through a fine wire mesh coffee filter a
> > > couple times. I have dry hopped before but that was when the beer I
> > > brewed was fermenting.
> > > harvestwind_73@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >> The beer will likely have a strong hop flavor. I have dry hopped with
> > >> pellets many times. Just out of curiosity, how do you plan to filter
> > >> it?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung. wrote:
> > >> > Some friends of mine always bring Miller Lite to my place whenever they
> > >> > come over. The leftovers just sit in the fridge while I buy, or make,
> > >> > better beer to drink. I have some Hallertau hop pellets that I haven't
> > >> > had a use for lately and I was thinking about tossing a couple into a
> > >> > bottle of Miller and letting it sit for about a week. What do you
> > >> > suppose the filtered end result will taste like? Ever done anything
> > >> > like that?
> > >
> >
> > Won't you lose a lot of carbonation once you open the bottle ?
> >
> > Duke
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 16:28:34
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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harvestwind_73@yahoo.com wrote:
> You could always run it into an empty two liter bottle after you filter
> it and use the "Carbonater Cap" to recarbonate. It would, at the very
> least, be a fun experiment. Hop flowers would be better than pellets.
> The pellets will turn into a fine sludge and could make filtering a
> pain.
>
> Careful with hop oils. They are very potent. I have used them on
> occasion and I calculated 3 ML is just about right to get the right PPM
> for a 15 BBL batch. Anything more is overpowering. And remember, with
> the oils, you will need to emulsify them first with a 5 to 1 ratio of
> Vodka or Everclear to Hop oil. Shake it up, then add to beer.
I suspect this is one of those "pro-brewing != homebrewing" things.
There are hop essences available to homebrewers that are nowhere near
this powerful, and are much easier to use. I've used these with pretty
fair results:
http://www.hoptech.com/cart/cart.php?target=category&category_id=300
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 03:46:24
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:28:34 -0600, <mikey666@666swampgas.666com > wrote:
> harvestwind_73@yahoo.com wrote:
>> You could always run it into an empty two liter bottle after you filter
>> it and use the "Carbonater Cap" to recarbonate. It would, at the very
>> least, be a fun experiment. Hop flowers would be better than pellets.
>> The pellets will turn into a fine sludge and could make filtering a
>> pain.
>>
>> Careful with hop oils. They are very potent. I have used them on
>> occasion and I calculated 3 ML is just about right to get the right PPM
>> for a 15 BBL batch. Anything more is overpowering. And remember, with
>> the oils, you will need to emulsify them first with a 5 to 1 ratio of
>> Vodka or Everclear to Hop oil. Shake it up, then add to beer.
>
> I suspect this is one of those "pro-brewing != homebrewing" things.
There are quite a few of those. ;)
John.
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 14:05:51
From: Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung.
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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I will loose carbonation, but the Miller Lite is just going to waste in
my fridge. If I loose carbonation but get a good taste out of the
beer, I'm OK with that.
Duke wrote:
> "Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung." <k03019454@gmail.com> wrote in
> message news:1164750717.054131.221490@45g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> >I was just gonna pass it through a fine wire mesh coffee filter a
> > couple times. I have dry hopped before but that was when the beer I
> > brewed was fermenting.
> > harvestwind_73@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> The beer will likely have a strong hop flavor. I have dry hopped with
> >> pellets many times. Just out of curiosity, how do you plan to filter
> >> it?
> >>
> >>
> >> Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung. wrote:
> >> > Some friends of mine always bring Miller Lite to my place whenever they
> >> > come over. The leftovers just sit in the fridge while I buy, or make,
> >> > better beer to drink. I have some Hallertau hop pellets that I haven't
> >> > had a use for lately and I was thinking about tossing a couple into a
> >> > bottle of Miller and letting it sit for about a week. What do you
> >> > suppose the filtered end result will taste like? Ever done anything
> >> > like that?
> >
>
> Won't you lose a lot of carbonation once you open the bottle ?
>
> Duke
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 14:02:00
From: dan
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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You could add a couple of drops of hop oil, which gives it a hoppiness
without adding bitterness. No hops to strain out, either.
dan
Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung. wrote:
> Some friends of mine always bring Miller Lite to my place whenever they
> come over. The leftovers just sit in the fridge while I buy, or make,
> better beer to drink. I have some Hallertau hop pellets that I haven't
> had a use for lately and I was thinking about tossing a couple into a
> bottle of Miller and letting it sit for about a week. What do you
> suppose the filtered end result will taste like? Ever done anything
> like that?
>
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 13:51:57
From: Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung.
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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I was just gonna pass it through a fine wire mesh coffee filter a
couple times. I have dry hopped before but that was when the beer I
brewed was fermenting.
harvestwind_73@yahoo.com wrote:
> The beer will likely have a strong hop flavor. I have dry hopped with
> pellets many times. Just out of curiosity, how do you plan to filter
> it?
>
>
> Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung. wrote:
> > Some friends of mine always bring Miller Lite to my place whenever they
> > come over. The leftovers just sit in the fridge while I buy, or make,
> > better beer to drink. I have some Hallertau hop pellets that I haven't
> > had a use for lately and I was thinking about tossing a couple into a
> > bottle of Miller and letting it sit for about a week. What do you
> > suppose the filtered end result will taste like? Ever done anything
> > like that?
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 21:57:43
From: Duke
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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"Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung." <k03019454@gmail.com > wrote in
message news:1164750717.054131.221490@45g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>I was just gonna pass it through a fine wire mesh coffee filter a
> couple times. I have dry hopped before but that was when the beer I
> brewed was fermenting.
> harvestwind_73@yahoo.com wrote:
>> The beer will likely have a strong hop flavor. I have dry hopped with
>> pellets many times. Just out of curiosity, how do you plan to filter
>> it?
>>
>>
>> Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung. wrote:
>> > Some friends of mine always bring Miller Lite to my place whenever they
>> > come over. The leftovers just sit in the fridge while I buy, or make,
>> > better beer to drink. I have some Hallertau hop pellets that I haven't
>> > had a use for lately and I was thinking about tossing a couple into a
>> > bottle of Miller and letting it sit for about a week. What do you
>> > suppose the filtered end result will taste like? Ever done anything
>> > like that?
>
Won't you lose a lot of carbonation once you open the bottle ?
Duke
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Date: 28 Nov 2006 13:35:44
From:
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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The beer will likely have a strong hop flavor. I have dry hopped with
pellets many times. Just out of curiosity, how do you plan to filter
it?
Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung. wrote:
> Some friends of mine always bring Miller Lite to my place whenever they
> come over. The leftovers just sit in the fridge while I buy, or make,
> better beer to drink. I have some Hallertau hop pellets that I haven't
> had a use for lately and I was thinking about tossing a couple into a
> bottle of Miller and letting it sit for about a week. What do you
> suppose the filtered end result will taste like? Ever done anything
> like that?
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 06:41:40
From: Jeff
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung. wrote:
> Some friends of mine always bring Miller Lite to my place whenever they
> come over. The leftovers just sit in the fridge while I buy, or make,
> better beer to drink. I have some Hallertau hop pellets that I haven't
> had a use for lately and I was thinking about tossing a couple into a
> bottle of Miller and letting it sit for about a week. What do you
> suppose the filtered end result will taste like? Ever done anything
> like that?
Boil brats with it or use it to knock down flare-ups on the grill. Or
you could repackage it for Christmas gifts for your Miller Lite
drinking friends :)
--Jeff
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 15:41:35
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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On 29 Nov 2006 06:41:40 -0800, <jjhenze@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung. wrote:
>> Some friends of mine always bring Miller Lite to my place whenever they
>> come over. The leftovers just sit in the fridge while I buy, or make,
>> better beer to drink. I have some Hallertau hop pellets that I haven't
>> had a use for lately and I was thinking about tossing a couple into a
>> bottle of Miller and letting it sit for about a week. What do you
>> suppose the filtered end result will taste like? Ever done anything
>> like that?
>
> Boil brats with it or use it to knock down flare-ups on the grill. Or
> you could repackage it for Christmas gifts for your Miller Lite
> drinking friends :)
I hear that BudMillerCoors make good slug bait.
John.
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 14:58:53
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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Jeff <jjhenze@gmail.com > wrote:
>Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung. wrote:
>> Some friends of mine always bring Miller Lite to my place whenever they
>> come over. The leftovers just sit in the fridge while I buy, or make,
>> better beer to drink. I have some Hallertau hop pellets that I haven't
>> had a use for lately and I was thinking about tossing a couple into a
>> bottle of Miller and letting it sit for about a week. What do you
>> suppose the filtered end result will taste like? Ever done anything
>> like that?
>
>Boil brats with it or use it to knock down flare-ups on the grill. Or
>you could repackage it for Christmas gifts for your Miller Lite
>drinking friends :)
That's the best advice I've seen in this thread. Megabrew
also is useful in meat marinades and chili.
Years ago I bought some generic "hop oil" and occasionally
will put a couple drops in a beer that needs help, but it
really doesn't get you a lot, just a weird sorta-hoppy flavor.
You'd still have the lack of body and lack of malt of the
orginial Miller Lite.
--
Joel Plutchak
"Things just fall apart." - Now They'll Sleep (Belly)
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 15:46:47
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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"Joel" <plutchak@see.headers > wrote in message
>
> That's the best advice I've seen in this thread. Megabrew
> also is useful in meat marinades and chili.
>
Okay, I make several different killer chili recipes but never tried a recipe
with beer. You wouldn't have one would you?
Mark R
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 18:15:29
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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Mark R <mray001@nospam.rr.com > wrote:
>"Joel" <plutchak@see.headers> wrote in message
>> That's the best advice I've seen in this thread. Megabrew
>> also is useful in meat marinades and chili.
>
>Okay, I make several different killer chili recipes but never tried a recipe
>with beer. You wouldn't have one would you?
Yes, but not on me right now. Basically just substitute
anywhere from a quarter to half of the water or broth in the
recipe with beer. I like to use big chunks of chuck, brown
it, then add beer and the spices & herbs to stew awhile before
adding the rest of the ingredients (more broth/water, tomatoes,
beans, whatever).
The beer can be anything from megabrew to stout (though I
tend not to use anything really hoppy).
--
Joel Plutchak
"Things just fall apart." - Now They'll Sleep (Belly)
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 16:11:56
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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"Joel" <plutchak@see.headers > wrote in message news:ekkio1$hj2
> The beer can be anything from megabrew to stout (though I
> tend not to use anything really hoppy).
I wondered about the hops, I wouldn't want them to be more than a background
flavor. I wonder of there are certain varieties that would go better with
chili? IBUs and Scoville units.... uhm beer .... uhm chili.
Mark R
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 09:49:17
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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Mark R wrote:
> "Joel" <plutchak@see.headers> wrote in message
>> That's the best advice I've seen in this thread. Megabrew
>> also is useful in meat marinades and chili.
>>
>
> Okay, I make several different killer chili recipes but never tried a recipe
> with beer. You wouldn't have one would you?
>
I just substitute beer for water.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 06:41:55
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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Mark R <mray001@nospam.rr.com > wrote:
> Okay, I make several different killer chili recipes but never
> tried a recipe with beer. You wouldn't have one would you?
I no longer drink swill and if someone brings some over, I make
certain they take what they didn't drink with them.
This Chili idea sounds great. My first thoughts were of a nice
malty Stout or Porter. I'd be concerned about heating the hops
out of an IPA. What would you use?
While on the subject of Chili, I'm a pepper guy and my son Joshua
is a pepper sauce guy. The trick to putting hot peppers in Chili
is to put in enough to get the flavor, but not that much heat.
Joshua found a new Tobasco product, Chipotle, that isn't all that
hot, but has a deep smokey flavor. It's going into my next batch
of Chili with a small amount of gound Red Savina habenero pepper.
Dick
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 23:08:59
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:46:47 +0000, Mark R wrote:
> "Joel" <plutchak@see.headers> wrote in message
>>
>> That's the best advice I've seen in this thread. Megabrew
>> also is useful in meat marinades and chili.
>>
>
> Okay, I make several different killer chili recipes but never tried a recipe
> with beer. You wouldn't have one would you?
>
> Mark R
I just simmer a joint of beef in a dark beer with a couple of bay leaves,
a large teaspoon of mustard and seasoning and add veggies like Brussels
sprouts and spuds, etc, when it's almost done. Sometimes I fry the joint
first to seal it. You can also use a brown ale to make ground beef and
onion pies. But that's Brit food :-)
Wayne
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 16:11:56
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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"Wayne" <rondonjin@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:ekl3ub$us8
>
> I just simmer a joint of beef in a dark beer with a couple of bay leaves,
> a large teaspoon of mustard and seasoning and add veggies like Brussels
> sprouts and spuds, etc, when it's almost done. Sometimes I fry the joint
> first to seal it. You can also use a brown ale to make ground beef and
> onion pies. But that's Brit food :-)
I haven't had a good meat pie in ages. You guy's are totally not fair! I'm
just now starting to get over a mouth full of blisters (bad reaction to a
drug) and had my first solid food in a week last night, and that was runny
scrambled eggs. :-(
Mark R
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Date: 29 Nov 2006 19:45:26
From: Andy Davison
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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On Tuesday 28 November 2006 21:21, Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung.
wrote:
> Some friends of mine always bring Miller Lite to my place whenever they
> come over. The leftovers just sit in the fridge while I buy, or make,
> better beer to drink. I have some Hallertau hop pellets that I haven't
> had a use for lately and I was thinking about tossing a couple into a
> bottle of Miller and letting it sit for about a week. What do you
> suppose the filtered end result will taste like? Ever done anything
> like that?
Before you do that, just rub the hops in the hand you use to hold the glass.
Your hand will smell of hops and every time you take a sip you get the
smell as well. Smell is very closely linked to taste and the beer will
taste better. You don't need to use to much hop this way, not a certain
amount for each bottle, and as the hop smell lessens just rub some more hop
through your fingers to refresh your hand.
--
Andy Davison
andy [at] oiyou [dot] ukfsn [dot] org
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 16:14:42
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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"Andy Davison" <andydvsn@yahoo.co.uk > wrote in message
>
> Before you do that, just rub the hops in the hand you use to hold the
> glass.
> Your hand will smell of hops and every time you take a sip you get the
> smell as well. Smell is very closely linked to taste and the beer will
> taste better. You don't need to use to much hop this way, not a certain
> amount for each bottle, and as the hop smell lessens just rub some more
> hop
> through your fingers to refresh your hand.
You sly old hop abuser.. ;-)
Mark R
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 23:39:36
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:11:56 +0000, Mark R wrote:
> "Wayne" <rondonjin@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ekl3ub$us8
>>
>> I just simmer a joint of beef in a dark beer with a couple of bay leaves,
>> a large teaspoon of mustard and seasoning and add veggies like Brussels
>> sprouts and spuds, etc, when it's almost done. Sometimes I fry the joint
>> first to seal it. You can also use a brown ale to make ground beef and
>> onion pies. But that's Brit food :-)
>
> I haven't had a good meat pie in ages. You guy's are totally not fair! I'm
> just now starting to get over a mouth full of blisters (bad reaction to a
> drug) and had my first solid food in a week last night, and that was runny
> scrambled eggs. :-(
>
> Mark R
I hate being sick, it makes me feel... err... ill!
Hope you recover soon. Here's a link to the pie recipe, to make
it on topic it calls for 300ml of brown ale or bitter:
http://www.hub-uk.com/foodpages36/1796.htm
As it's turning cold maybe a nice stew made with Newcastle
Brown or your own homebrew:
http://homecooking.about.com/library/archive/blss105.htm
Wayne
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 04:06:07
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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"Wayne" <rondonjin@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:eknq3n$vd3
>
> I hate being sick, it makes me feel... err... ill!
>
> Hope you recover soon. Here's a link to the pie recipe, to make
> it on topic it calls for 300ml of brown ale or bitter:
>
> http://www.hub-uk.com/foodpages36/1796.htm
>
> As it's turning cold maybe a nice stew made with Newcastle
> Brown or your own homebrew:
>
> http://homecooking.about.com/library/archive/blss105.htm
>
Thanks Wayne, Both look great and are bookmarked for future reference. I
make what I think is a killer English Brown Ale so I'll have some for meat
pies when the time comes. I remember buying the individual hot meat pies
from the greasy spoon down the street when I was a teenager, that and
steaming fresh sausage pastries from the bakery while on the way to school
in the mornings.
Mark R
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 12:36:24
From: mike vore
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung. wrote:
> Some friends of mine always bring Miller Lite to my place whenever they
> come over. The leftovers just sit in the fridge while I buy, or make,
> better beer to drink. I have some Hallertau hop pellets that I haven't
> had a use for lately and I was thinking about tossing a couple into a
> bottle of Miller and letting it sit for about a week. What do you
> suppose the filtered end result will taste like? Ever done anything
> like that?
>
Use for experimenting with hops. I've heard of 'dry hopping' like that to get
the idea of what various hops taste like. Drop in a pellet or leaf, cap, let
it sit a week. Then do your taste test. It takes way too long to brew up a
batch just to try a new variety of hops only to find it didn't have the flavor
profile you wanted.
--
Mike Vore
http://www.OhMyWoodness.com
http://mike.vorefamily.net/twr
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 14:48:48
From: Scotty B
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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Probably the best thing to do is pour out the contents and refill with
a good homebrew.
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 08:59:20
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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"Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung." wrote:
>
> Some friends of mine always bring Miller Lite to my place whenever they
> come over. The leftovers just sit in the fridge while I buy, or make,
> better beer to drink. I have some Hallertau hop pellets that I haven't
> had a use for lately and I was thinking about tossing a couple into a
> bottle of Miller and letting it sit for about a week. What do you
> suppose the filtered end result will taste like? Ever done anything
> like that?
During my study group for the BJCP exam, we did a couple sessions of
doctored beer. Using Bud as a base, we had a guy add varying amounts of
different stuff to simulate defects in beers. AT one point, no one
could tell what had been added, but evryone agreed that the Bud seemed
to taste better than it normally does. Turns out the characteristic he
was simulating was "bitterness", and he'd added hop oil to the Bud....
---------- >Denny
--
Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 09:09:39
From: Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung.
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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Thanks for the input everybody. I think I'll do some experimenting
cheap beer in the future. The Miller that was in my fridge is now
gone. Ya give someone a beer after work and you're a sweetheart. And,
you get rid of an eyesore.
Denny Conn wrote:
> "Fung is brewing, and brewing is fung." wrote:
> >
> > Some friends of mine always bring Miller Lite to my place whenever they
> > come over. The leftovers just sit in the fridge while I buy, or make,
> > better beer to drink. I have some Hallertau hop pellets that I haven't
> > had a use for lately and I was thinking about tossing a couple into a
> > bottle of Miller and letting it sit for about a week. What do you
> > suppose the filtered end result will taste like? Ever done anything
> > like that?
>
> During my study group for the BJCP exam, we did a couple sessions of
> doctored beer. Using Bud as a base, we had a guy add varying amounts of
> different stuff to simulate defects in beers. AT one point, no one
> could tell what had been added, but evryone agreed that the Bud seemed
> to taste better than it normally does. Turns out the characteristic he
> was simulating was "bitterness", and he'd added hop oil to the Bud....
>
> ---------->Denny
> --
> Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 08:46:57
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Can I improve bad commercial beer with hops?
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On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 04:06:07 +0000, Mark R wrote:
> Thanks Wayne, Both look great and are bookmarked for future reference. I
> make what I think is a killer English Brown Ale so I'll have some for meat
> pies when the time comes. I remember buying the individual hot meat pies
> from the greasy spoon down the street when I was a teenager, that and
> steaming fresh sausage pastries from the bakery while on the way to school
> in the mornings.
Living here I miss the small things like a good meat pie, a Cornish
pastie, sausage rolls and especially a nice pork pie covered with
lashings of Colman's mustard! I can get the mustard these days...
:-( Still, things aren't as bleak as they used to be, there's
plenty of imported beer to choose from!
I remember at secondary school going to the bakery at lunchtime,
buying half a loaf of bread, scooping out the middle and having
it filled with chips at the chippie! Then smothering it with
salt and lashings of Sarson's! Ahh, the good old bad old days!
Right, I'm going to check on my stout!
Cheers
Wayne
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Registered Linux user #375994
http://www.geocities.jp/rondonko/
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