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Date: 02 Nov 2006 23:53:11
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Subject: Brewing hard lemonade possible?
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My brother and I were thinking this summer that it'd be kinda cool to be able to brew a hard lemonade. Any thoughts on whether or
not it's possible with some frozen concentrate, sugar and yeast?... or would it taste like rotten lemons?
-Cory
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Date: 03 Nov 2006 04:31:42
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Brewing hard lemonade possible?
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Cory:
Several people at winepress have made a hard lemonade, supposedly
similar to Mike's. There are several threads. Here is the first one
I found. Good Luck
http://www.winepress.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=1156&hl=
Steve
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:53:11 +0000 (UTC),
papenfussDIESPAM@juneauDOTmeDOTvt.edu wrote:
> My brother and I were thinking this summer that it'd be kinda cool to be able to brew a hard lemonade. Any thoughts on whether or
>not it's possible with some frozen concentrate, sugar and yeast?... or would it taste like rotten lemons?
>
>-Cory
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 20:17:21
From: Warren Place
Subject: Re: Brewing hard lemonade possible?
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On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 papenfussDIESPAM@juneauDOTmeDOTvt.edu wrote:
> My brother and I were thinking this summer that it'd be kinda cool to be able to brew a hard lemonade. Any thoughts on whether or
> not it's possible with some frozen concentrate, sugar and yeast?... or would it taste like rotten lemons?
>
> -Cory
>
> --
I've seen a bunch of discussion and recipes on this in the past on this
board. Try searching for Zima recipes too. Don't get discouraged by all
the people who dismiss making these beverages. It is frustrating, but if
you weed through enough irrelevant posts you will eventually get to some
insightful recipes and discussion.
Warren Place
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 19:06:48
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Subject: Re: Brewing hard lemonade possible?
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papenfussDIESPAM@juneauDOTmeDOTvt.edu wrote:
> My brother and I were thinking this summer that it'd be kinda cool to be able to brew a hard lemonade. Any thoughts on whether or
> not it's possible with some frozen concentrate, sugar and yeast?... or would it taste like rotten lemons?
The hard lemonades all say they are a "malt beverage". I would go with
extra light malt extract or pilsner malt only mash, yeast with a low
alchohol tolerance, and lemon flavoring.
>
> -Cory
>
> --
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> * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA *
> * Electrical Engineering *
> * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University *
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Date: 03 Nov 2006 13:48:46
From:
Subject: Re: Brewing hard lemonade possible?
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papenfussDIESPAM@juneaudotmedotvt.edu wrote:
: My brother and I were thinking this summer that it'd be kinda cool to be able to brew a hard lemonade. Any thoughts on whether or
: not it's possible with some frozen concentrate, sugar and yeast?... or would it taste like rotten lemons?
Thanks for all the tips. I'm primarily trying to do this as a challenge.
Certainly not a "normal" homebrew, but good potential as an "alcopop." The Zima
search had a few good ideas... even some all-grain ones. I guess I'm thinking that
making a *true* replica of a "Mike's hard lemonade" isn't the goal, but something
similar would be kinda fun.
-Cory
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* Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA *
* Electrical Engineering *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University *
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Date: 03 Nov 2006 09:36:43
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Brewing hard lemonade possible?
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<papenfussDIESPAM@juneauDOTmeDOTvt.edu > wrote in message
news:eifhbu$g5r$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu...
> papenfussDIESPAM@juneaudotmedotvt.edu wrote:
> : My brother and I were thinking this summer that it'd be kinda
cool to be able to brew a hard lemonade. Any thoughts on whether or
> : not it's possible with some frozen concentrate, sugar and yeast?... or
would it taste like rotten lemons?
>
> Thanks for all the tips. I'm primarily trying to do this as a challenge.
> Certainly not a "normal" homebrew, but good potential as an "alcopop."
The Zima
> search had a few good ideas... even some all-grain ones. I guess I'm
thinking that
> making a *true* replica of a "Mike's hard lemonade" isn't the goal, but
something
> similar would be kinda fun.
Lemons can be pretty strong. If you ferment in a plastic bucket you may have
problems eliminating the odors.
Mark R
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Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:05:48
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Brewing hard lemonade possible?
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Mark R <marknorayspam@noev1spam.net > wrote:
><papenfussDIESPAM@juneauDOTmeDOTvt.edu> wrote:
>> papenfussDIESPAM@juneaudotmedotvt.edu wrote:
>> : My brother and I were thinking this summer that it'd be kinda
>cool to be able to brew a hard lemonade. Any thoughts on whether or
>> : not it's possible with some frozen concentrate, sugar and yeast?... or
>would it taste like rotten lemons?
>> Thanks for all the tips. I'm primarily trying to do this as a challenge.
>> Certainly not a "normal" homebrew, but good potential as an "alcopop."
>> The Zima search had a few good ideas... even some all-grain ones. I
>> guess I'm thinking that making a *true* replica of a "Mike's hard
>> lemonade" isn't the goal, but something similar would be kinda fun.
>
>Lemons can be pretty strong. If you ferment in a plastic bucket you may have
>problems eliminating the odors.
I would think any flavoring would be added after fermentation--
ferment the driest, least-flavorable, highest-sugar-adjunct beer
you would dare, filter the heck out of it, then add flavorings in
the form of concentrated extracts.
--
Joel Plutchak
"Things just fall apart." - Now They'll Sleep (Belly)
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Date: 03 Nov 2006 17:02:02
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Brewing hard lemonade possible?
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On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:05:48 +0000 (UTC), <plutchak@see.headers > wrote:
>>Lemons can be pretty strong. If you ferment in a plastic bucket you may have
>>problems eliminating the odors.
>
> I would think any flavoring would be added after fermentation--
> ferment the driest, least-flavorable, highest-sugar-adjunct beer
> you would dare, filter the heck out of it, then add flavorings in
> the form of concentrated extracts.
Not that I want to make this, but if I did I'd probably just ferment 100%
simple sugar (corn/cane/table, etc) and then once it's done use that as
the "water" for making the lemonade. The stronger you want it, the more
sugar you start with in the initial fermentation. I agree though, I
wouldn't add the lemons (or flavoring in general) until the end.
John.
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Date: 03 Nov 2006 15:27:58
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Brewing hard lemonade possible?
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On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 13:48:46 +0000 (UTC), <papenfussDIESPAM@juneauDOTmeDOTvt.edu > wrote:
> papenfussDIESPAM@juneaudotmedotvt.edu wrote:
>: My brother and I were thinking this summer that it'd be kinda cool to be able to brew a hard lemonade. Any thoughts on whether or
>: not it's possible with some frozen concentrate, sugar and yeast?... or would it taste like rotten lemons?
>
> Thanks for all the tips. I'm primarily trying to do this as a challenge.
> Certainly not a "normal" homebrew, but good potential as an "alcopop." The Zima
> search had a few good ideas... even some all-grain ones. I guess I'm thinking that
> making a *true* replica of a "Mike's hard lemonade" isn't the goal, but something
> similar would be kinda fun.
Yeah, making something the same way they make the commercial alcopop type
stuff at home is going to be virtually impossible. The process/equipment
they use is just something that most homebrewers can't reproduce. However,
don't let that stop you. You could probably make something similar if you
really wanted to.
John.
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Date: 03 Nov 2006 17:39:42
From: Jim
Subject: Re: Brewing hard lemonade possible?
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote on 11/3/2006 10:27 AM:
> On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 13:48:46 +0000 (UTC), <papenfussDIESPAM@juneauDOTmeDOTvt.edu> wrote:
>> papenfussDIESPAM@juneaudotmedotvt.edu wrote:
>> : My brother and I were thinking this summer that it'd be kinda cool to be able to brew a hard lemonade. Any thoughts on whether or
>> : not it's possible with some frozen concentrate, sugar and yeast?... or would it taste like rotten lemons?
>>
>> Thanks for all the tips. I'm primarily trying to do this as a challenge.
>> Certainly not a "normal" homebrew, but good potential as an "alcopop." The Zima
>> search had a few good ideas... even some all-grain ones. I guess I'm thinking that
>> making a *true* replica of a "Mike's hard lemonade" isn't the goal, but something
>> similar would be kinda fun.
>
> Yeah, making something the same way they make the commercial alcopop type
> stuff at home is going to be virtually impossible. The process/equipment
> they use is just something that most homebrewers can't reproduce. However,
> don't let that stop you. You could probably make something similar if you
> really wanted to.
>
>
> John.
I have a hard cider going on right now. I really dont see why hard
lemonade would be any different. whats the worst thing that can happen?
You spend $5 on concentrate lemonade, $3 on yeast and about 30 minutes
of time. I think I may try this next.
Jim
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Date: 03 Nov 2006 23:58:07
From:
Subject: Re: Brewing hard lemonade possible?
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Jim <Jim@no.com > wrote:
: I have a hard cider going on right now. I really dont see why hard
: lemonade would be any different. whats the worst thing that can happen?
: You spend $5 on concentrate lemonade, $3 on yeast and about 30 minutes
: of time. I think I may try this next.
I did two hard ciders last fall. The first one was 5 gallons of cider, and about 6 lbs of brown sugar plus spices. It was
*wonderful*... AFTER I finally finished fermenting. The cider had potassium sorbate in it, and I didnt' realize how much that would screw
up the fermentation. After about 3-4 weeks it finally fermented down
The second cider followed the same recipe, but with sorbate-less cider. We still haven't had the guts to drink much of it, since
it went from 1.085 down to 0.995 the last time we checked... rocket fuel.
The lemonade would have the potential to do the same I'd think. I'm just worried because I've heard of a "rotten fruit-funk" if
the lemon concentrate is added too soon.
-Cory
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* Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA *
* Electrical Engineering *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University *
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