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Date: 15 Aug 2006 10:40:24
From: Baron218
Subject: Brew books
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I'm thinking about getting another brew book. I have Complete Joy of
Homebrewing and Brewmaster's Bible. These books are kind of lacking in
terms of water information and additives. I was thinking either
Homebrewers Companion or maybe even Brew Chem 101 (I'm extremely
science capable).
Any helpful thoughts?
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 19:38:22
From:
Subject: Re: Brew books
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The more different perspectives you get on water chem, the better
educated you will be. Noonan's book on brewing lager beer has a chapter
on water chem that I've learned a lot from .
Roger
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 11:42:02
From: Alf McLaughlin
Subject: Re: Brew books
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ditto... get How to Brew! It is very well written and the pictures
make everything very easy to understand. I am reading it right now;
definitely a lot of little details hidden in there that I haven't been
exposed to. It is pretty cheap at Amazon right now too.
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 18:40:19
From: Scott Sellers
Subject: Re: Brew books
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Baron218 <MGarshick@gmail.com >:
>I'm thinking about getting another brew book. I have Complete Joy of
>Homebrewing and Brewmaster's Bible. These books are kind of lacking in
>terms of water information and additives. I was thinking either
>Homebrewers Companion or maybe even Brew Chem 101 (I'm extremely
>science capable).
>Any helpful thoughts?
I'll second Palmer's "How to Brew" and Daniel's "Designing Great
Beers". The former for an all-purpose howto reference, the
latter especially if you are getting into allgrain recipe
formulation.
I have Brew Chem 101, and it approaches things from a basic
chemistry level. This was refreshing to someone like me, who
hasn't touched chemistry since high school. At the same time, it
is kind of skimpy when it comes to actual brewing practice. For
example, I wanted to learn about water chemistry, and BC 101 had
a few pages, but I ended up getting more applicable brewing
knowledge out of the Palmer book. I'd view BC 101 as more of an
adjunct, where HTB and DGB are like two row and specialty grain.
hth,
Scott S
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Scott Sellers
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 10:45:51
From: Denny Conn
Subject: Re: Brew books
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Baron218 wrote:
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> I'm thinking about getting another brew book. I have Complete Joy of
> Homebrewing and Brewmaster's Bible. These books are kind of lacking in
> terms of water information and additives. I was thinking either
> Homebrewers Companion or maybe even Brew Chem 101 (I'm extremely
> science capable).
>
> Any helpful thoughts?
The BEST brewing book out there, IMO, is John Palmer's new edition (3rd)
of How to Brew. Desigining Great Beers is a fantatsic book also, but
I'd recommend HTB before DGB.
---------- >Denny
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Life begins at 60 - 1.060, that is.
Reply to denny_at_projectoneaudio_dot_com
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 17:45:31
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Brew books
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On 15 Aug 2006 10:40:24 -0700, <MGarshick@gmail.com > wrote:
> I'm thinking about getting another brew book. I have Complete Joy of
> Homebrewing and Brewmaster's Bible. These books are kind of lacking in
> terms of water information and additives. I was thinking either
> Homebrewers Companion or maybe even Brew Chem 101 (I'm extremely
> science capable).
>
> Any helpful thoughts?
I highly recommend "How To Brew" by John Palmer. I don't know about
Brewmaster's Bible, but the Papazian book is *extremely* out of date.
John.
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 18:32:53
From: Wheat
Subject: Re: Brew books
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"John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net > wrote in message
news:slrnee426j.d5f.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
> On 15 Aug 2006 10:40:24 -0700, <MGarshick@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm thinking about getting another brew book. I have Complete Joy of
>> Homebrewing and Brewmaster's Bible. These books are kind of lacking in
>> terms of water information and additives. I was thinking either
>> Homebrewers Companion or maybe even Brew Chem 101 (I'm extremely
>> science capable).
>>
>> Any helpful thoughts?
>
> I highly recommend "How To Brew" by John Palmer. I don't know about
> Brewmaster's Bible, but the Papazian book is >*extremely* out of date.
Papazian's ""The Complete Joy Of Home Brewing" completely updated, third
edition, dated 2003 is "extremely out of date."??
Just checking.
Bill
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 15:10:30
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Brew books
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:32:53 -0700, <kotosho@netscape.net > wrote:
> Papazian's ""The Complete Joy Of Home Brewing" completely updated, third
> edition, dated 2003 is "extremely out of date."??
It was mostly just a reprint. Very little was actually updated. I still
see lots of things in the third edition that are referring to things
as they existed in the hobby back in the 1980s when the book was originally
written. So, yes, regardless of the date on the third edition, the
information in the book is still very outdated.
John.
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 11:41:23
From: John Bleichert
Subject: Re: Brew books
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Wheat <kotosho@netscape.net > wrote:
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> "John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnee426j.d5f.spam@weizen.shagg.net...
>> On 15 Aug 2006 10:40:24 -0700, <MGarshick@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm thinking about getting another brew book. I have Complete Joy of
>>> Homebrewing and Brewmaster's Bible. These books are kind of lacking in
>>> terms of water information and additives. I was thinking either
>>> Homebrewers Companion or maybe even Brew Chem 101 (I'm extremely
>>> science capable).
>>>
>>> Any helpful thoughts?
>>
>> I highly recommend "How To Brew" by John Palmer. I don't know about
>> Brewmaster's Bible, but the Papazian book is >*extremely* out of date.
>
> Papazian's ""The Complete Joy Of Home Brewing" completely updated, third
> edition, dated 2003 is "extremely out of date."??
>
> Just checking.
>
> Bill
>
I only started brewing in 2005 and started using the 3rd edition. I
like it, a lot. Between that and How To Brew and Daniels' book I'm all
set, though I did just order a recipe book for yucks (Brew Classic
European Beers at Home). r.c.b helps a lot too :-)
I like Papazian's book. The only quibble I have with it is that iodine
test, but otherwise I like it.
Papazian gives you just enough science with which to hang
yourself. Palmer gives you *plenty* with which ti hang yourself, over
and over...
-----------------------------------------------
John Bleichert syborg@earthlink.net
The heat from below can burn your eyes out!!
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 04:35:11
From: Scotty B
Subject: Re: Brew books
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Alf McLaughlin wrote:
> ditto... get How to Brew! It is very well written and the pictures
> make everything very easy to understand. I am reading it right now;
> definitely a lot of little details hidden in there that I haven't been
> exposed to. It is pretty cheap at Amazon right now too.
Speaking of cheap books, check out www.allbookstores.com. It searches
multiple sites that sell books and it sorts them by price (including
shipping) so you can easily find the cheapest book.
Scotty B
/Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated...etc.
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 19:02:29
From: Brewer Bob
Subject: Re: Brew books
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Baron218 wrote:
>I'm thinking about getting another brew book. I have Complete Joy of
>Homebrewing and Brewmaster's Bible. These books are kind of lacking in
>terms of water information and additives. I was thinking either
>Homebrewers Companion or maybe even Brew Chem 101 (I'm extremely
>science capable).
>
>Any helpful thoughts?
>
>
If you want to get insanely geeky technical, I highly recommend Malting
& Brewing Science Vol's 1 & 2 by Houghton et. al.
Brewer Bob
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Date: 17 Aug 2006 11:56:58
From: Andy Davison
Subject: Re: Brew books
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On Tuesday 15 August 2006 18:40, Baron218 wrote:
> I'm thinking about getting another brew book. I have Complete Joy of
> Homebrewing and Brewmaster's Bible. These books are kind of lacking in
> terms of water information and additives. I was thinking either
> Homebrewers Companion or maybe even Brew Chem 101 (I'm extremely
> science capable).
>
> Any helpful thoughts?
If you want something very up to date you can download this one:
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/london/
g,d&r :)
--
Andy Davison
andy [at] oiyou [dot] ukfsn [dot] org
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 07:15:40
From: Brewer Bob
Subject: Re: Brew books
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Andy Davison wrote:
>On Tuesday 15 August 2006 18:40, Baron218 wrote:
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>>I'm thinking about getting another brew book. I have Complete Joy of
>>Homebrewing and Brewmaster's Bible. These books are kind of lacking in
>>terms of water information and additives. I was thinking either
>>Homebrewers Companion or maybe even Brew Chem 101 (I'm extremely
>>science capable).
>>
>>Any helpful thoughts?
>>
>>
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>If you want something very up to date you can download this one:
>http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/london/
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>g,d&r :)
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>
Andy,
That's was just future theory and conjecture that is still way ahead of
any concepts we can comprehend ;)
Brewer Bob
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