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Date: 03 Jun 2006 20:36:54
From: nickstrachan
Subject: Bench cappers
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Does anyone know of or have tha capability to create a bench capper
with a meter to indicate the exact amount of pressure needed to
correctly seal each cap...It could be as low tech as a torque wrench
dial or as high tech as a digi. readout...Just though of this after
having exploded my first bottle last week beer and shards of glass
every where......It would keep me from getting the jitters with every
bottle i cap...
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Date: 04 Jun 2006 04:08:32
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Bench cappers
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Nick:
My guess is that there was a crack in the bottle. Deoending where the
crack is, almost any pressure would cause the bottle to break.
A customer in the store had a bottle snap in the neck a couple of
months ago. We figured it was a cracked bottle. Waste of beer, mess
to clean up, etc etc. Not a big deal.
A while later another customer was sanitizing some bottles, and he
called me over to look at a bottle. It was cracked in the neck.
Probably would have broken exactly the same as the other one.
I apply more pressure than most of my customers when capping beer (I'm
bigger and taller). I've only broken two bottles capping. Both
broken necks, and both times I accidentally used two beer caps. One
on the capper magnet, forgot it was there, put another on the bottle.
I would guess that the neck is the weakest part of a beer bottle.
Also the most prone to being knocked.
Steve
On 3 Jun 2006 20:36:54 -0700, "nickstrachan" <nickajstrachan@aol.com >
wrote:
>Does anyone know of or have tha capability to create a bench capper
>with a meter to indicate the exact amount of pressure needed to
>correctly seal each cap...It could be as low tech as a torque wrench
>dial or as high tech as a digi. readout...Just though of this after
>having exploded my first bottle last week beer and shards of glass
>every where......It would keep me from getting the jitters with every
>bottle i cap...
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Date: 04 Jun 2006 11:16:24
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: Bench cappers
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"I'm using a "wing" type capper I guess they're called..the cheap plastic
ones...and was wondering if I'm using too much pressure also. I push down to
the point of seeing an indentation on the center of the cap. Is this too
much? I know the beers from the stores don't have this dent and now I'm a
bit concerned. Should I back off or is this the correct way?
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Date: 04 Jun 2006 19:10:14
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Bench cappers
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On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:16:24 -0400, <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
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> "I'm using a "wing" type capper I guess they're called..the cheap plastic
> ones...and was wondering if I'm using too much pressure also. I push down to
> the point of seeing an indentation on the center of the cap. Is this too
> much? I know the beers from the stores don't have this dent and now I'm a
> bit concerned. Should I back off or is this the correct way?
You're supposed to see the indentation with that style of capper, mine did
the same exact thing. IMO, if you don't see that little circle indentation
then it probably means you weren't pushing hard enough. The reason you don't
see that indentation on commercial beer is that they don't use hand cappers ;)
John.
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Date: 05 Jun 2006 17:27:28
From: Derric
Subject: Re: Bench cappers
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>> ... I push down to the point of seeing an indentation on the center
>> of the cap. Is this too much? ...
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> You're supposed to see the indentation with that style of capper, mine did
> the same exact thing. IMO, if you don't see that little circle indentation
> then it probably means you weren't pushing hard enough. The reason you don't
> see that indentation on commercial beer is that they don't use hand cappers ;)
With my wing capper, I'd see the indentations when using bottles with a
big "lip." The bottles with a small "lip" wouldn't generate enough
pressure to make the indentation (I'd usually press those twice with a
90 degree twist in-between, just to be sure). Either way was fine.
Derric
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Date: 12 Jun 2006 16:08:56
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Bench cappers
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Derric <derric1961@removethis.yahoo.com > wrote:
>>> ... I push down to the point of seeing an indentation on the center
>>> of the cap. Is this too much? ...
>With my wing capper, I'd see the indentations when using bottles with a
>big "lip." The bottles with a small "lip" wouldn't generate enough
>pressure to make the indentation (I'd usually press those twice with a
>90 degree twist in-between, just to be sure). Either way was fine.
Ditto. With my 20-y.o. metal wing capper, some bottles
have the indentation and some don't. They seal well either
way.
--
Joel Plutchak
"Things deserve to get stirred up." - Michael Balzary
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Date: 12 Jun 2006 14:51:33
From: Adam Preble
Subject: Re: Bench cappers
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Gerard Eberlein wrote:
> "I'm using a "wing" type capper I guess they're called..the cheap plastic
> ones...and was wondering if I'm using too much pressure also. I push down to
> the point of seeing an indentation on the center of the cap. Is this too
> much? I know the beers from the stores don't have this dent and now I'm a
> bit concerned. Should I back off or is this the correct way?
>
I don't recall if I get indentations or not with a wing capper, but I've
found it a lot easier to use after spraying it down with WD-40. I had
to seriously muscle the thing to get it to cap most bottles. Then I
tried it w/o a bottle and realized I have been fighting myself the whole
time.
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Date: 13 Jun 2006 12:30:58
From: Bob
Subject: Re: Bench cappers
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"Adam Preble" <rockobonaparte@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:Vbfjg.24173$bk5.11033@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Gerard Eberlein wrote:
> > "I'm using a "wing" type capper I guess they're called..the cheap plastic
> > ones...and was wondering if I'm using too much pressure also. I push down to
> > the point of seeing an indentation on the center of the cap. Is this too
> > much? I know the beers from the stores don't have this dent and now I'm a
> > bit concerned. Should I back off or is this the correct way?
> >
>
> I don't recall if I get indentations or not with a wing capper, but I've
> found it a lot easier to use after spraying it down with WD-40. I had
> to seriously muscle the thing to get it to cap most bottles. Then I
> tried it w/o a bottle and realized I have been fighting myself the whole
> time.
I think I'd rather use a food grade silicone spray. WD40 is horrible smelling stuff.
Bob
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Date: 04 Jun 2006 19:08:34
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Bench cappers
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On 3 Jun 2006 20:36:54 -0700, <nickajstrachan@aol.com > wrote:
> Does anyone know of or have tha capability to create a bench capper
> with a meter to indicate the exact amount of pressure needed to
> correctly seal each cap...It could be as low tech as a torque wrench
> dial or as high tech as a digi. readout...Just though of this after
> having exploded my first bottle last week beer and shards of glass
> every where......It would keep me from getting the jitters with every
> bottle i cap...
I don't think there's any need for a pressure gauge. IMO, the bottle that
broke was probably flawed/weakened to begin with.
John.
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