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Date: 16 Oct 2006 13:17:03
From: Matthew Dowden
Subject: Artifically staling hops


All,

It's been a while since I've been here asking for information. Been
brewing for 6+ years now. Finally got the courage to try brewing a Lambic
now that I got a few relatives hooked on it at a local tasting event. I
need to stale the hops used. Anyone have a method to do this quickly? I
remember reading somewhere that this could be done.....just can't remember
where. I'll be using pellet hops and I'd like to brew this before Christmas
time so I can have it ready to drink in 2008. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Also, I planted some hops in my back yard and thought that I could use
these in future Lambic brews. I would appreciate any info on staling whole
hops as well.




Cheers!

Matt Dowden






 
Date: 16 Oct 2006 17:52:39
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Artifically staling hops


Matthew Dowden <matt.dowden@insightbb.com > wrote:
> It's been a while since I've been here asking for information. Been
>brewing for 6+ years now. Finally got the courage to try brewing a Lambic
>now that I got a few relatives hooked on it at a local tasting event. I
>need to stale the hops used. Anyone have a method to do this quickly? I
>remember reading somewhere that this could be done.....just can't remember
>where. I'll be using pellet hops and I'd like to brew this before Christmas
>time so I can have it ready to drink in 2008. Any help would be greatly
>appreciated.

A friend who commercially brewed pseudo-lambic came
to the conclusion, based on his experiences, that simply
leaving (stale) hops out of the brew made for better
results.
--
Joel Plutchak

"Things just fall apart." - Now They'll Sleep (Belly)


 
Date: 16 Oct 2006 17:39:10
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Artifically staling hops


On Mon, 16 2006 13:17:03 -0400, <matt.dowden@insightbb.com > wrote:
> All,
>
> It's been a while since I've been here asking for information. Been
> brewing for 6+ years now. Finally got the courage to try brewing a Lambic
> now that I got a few relatives hooked on it at a local tasting event. I
> need to stale the hops used. Anyone have a method to do this quickly? I
> remember reading somewhere that this could be done.....just can't remember
> where. I'll be using pellet hops and I'd like to brew this before Christmas
> time so I can have it ready to drink in 2008. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.

If I remember, heat does the trick. I think some people put them in
the oven, or something similar. Searching the group archives should
turn up some information, I know I've seen it discussed on here before.


John.


 
Date: 16 Oct 2006 13:37:35
From: Phil
Subject: Re: Artifically staling hops


On Mon, 16 2006 13:17:03 -0400, "Matthew Dowden"
<matt.dowden@insightbb.com > wrote:

>All,
>
> It's been a while since I've been here asking for information. Been
>brewing for 6+ years now. Finally got the courage to try brewing a Lambic
>now that I got a few relatives hooked on it at a local tasting event. I
>need to stale the hops used. Anyone have a method to do this quickly? I
>remember reading somewhere that this could be done.....just can't remember
>where. I'll be using pellet hops and I'd like to brew this before Christmas
>time so I can have it ready to drink in 2008. Any help would be greatly
>appreciated.

Buy some hop leaf. It'll dry out quicker.


Phil
======
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http://www.hbd.org/nychg


 
Date: 17 Oct 2006 02:10:11
From: Adam Preble
Subject: Re: Artifically staling hops


Matthew Dowden wrote:
> need to stale the hops used. Anyone have a method to do this quickly? I
> remember reading somewhere that this could be done.....just can't remember
> where. I'll be using pellet hops and I'd like to brew this before Christmas
> time so I can have it ready to drink in 2008. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.

I made a big batch of plambic quite a few months ago. I had pellet hops
on hand so I ended up using those up. I laid out the hops in baking pan
and baked on the warm setting in the oven, raking through the mess
occasionally. The smell turns to stale cheese puffs, which gets
irritating because it fills the house.

The boiled wort with hop additions and all didn't seem particularly
bitter. Given the smells that came out of it during fermentation, I
feel like something was left in there. So I don't know if I did it
enough. I was doing this on and off over 5 days, alternating between
baking and keeping it outside.

My hops were in the ~5-6% AA range, you could probably do better with
lower AA Saaz, or Strissel Spalt (pretty damn low AA). Also whole leaf
hops are supposed to work better.


 
Date: 18 Oct 2006 20:08:41
From: Matthew Dowden
Subject: Re: Artifically staling hops


Thanks for all the replies. I've since found out that the local health food
store carries whole hops. So, I bought me some. Boy, do they look and
smell old!!!



"Matthew Dowden" <matt.dowden@insightbb.com > wrote in message
news:99SdnSo5xPqHI67YnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@insightbb.com...
> All,
>
> It's been a while since I've been here asking for information. Been
> brewing for 6+ years now. Finally got the courage to try brewing a Lambic
> now that I got a few relatives hooked on it at a local tasting event. I
> need to stale the hops used. Anyone have a method to do this quickly? I
> remember reading somewhere that this could be done.....just can't remember
> where. I'll be using pellet hops and I'd like to brew this before
> Christmas time so I can have it ready to drink in 2008. Any help would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Also, I planted some hops in my back yard and thought that I could use
> these in future Lambic brews. I would appreciate any info on staling
> whole hops as well.
>
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Matt Dowden
>