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Date: 20 Aug 2006 19:06:08
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Arrogant Bastard Ale


Twice a year I brew 10 gallons of an Arrogant Bastard clone.
It hasn't been to a competition yet because most of it, as
I tell my child bride, goes into pre-competition Quality
Assurance Testing. (She believes me and that's all that
counts.) Hopefully this next batch will see a competition.

The BJCP guidelines specifically list Arrogant Bastard Ale
as an Imperial IPA. Try as I might I've not been able to
conjure up a recipe where the SRM's below 22.

I could argue that it is a Strong Ale where almost all
high ABV, thick malt, and heavily hopped ales are in style.

What would you do?

Also and very important, I keg and consider bottling a PITA.
Should I bottle from a bottling bucket or from a keg for
competition? I can do either.

Dick




 
Date: 20 Aug 2006 15:31:28
From: David M. Taylor
Subject: Re: Arrogant Bastard Ale


"Dick Adams" <rdadams@smart.net > wrote in message
news:12ehcl08nipgqdc@corp.supernews.com...
> Twice a year I brew 10 gallons of an Arrogant Bastard clone.
> It hasn't been to a competition yet because most of it, as
> I tell my child bride, goes into pre-competition Quality
> Assurance Testing. (She believes me and that's all that
> counts.) Hopefully this next batch will see a competition.
>
> The BJCP guidelines specifically list Arrogant Bastard Ale
> as an Imperial IPA. Try as I might I've not been able to
> conjure up a recipe where the SRM's below 22.
>
> I could argue that it is a Strong Ale where almost all
> high ABV, thick malt, and heavily hopped ales are in style.
>
> What would you do?

I am pretty sure Arrogant Bastard defies categorization -- you might be best
off entering it in the Specialty category. Otherwise, screw 'em, go ahead
and put it in the Imperial IPA category. Appearance is only worth 3 points
out of 50, at worst you would only lose 2 points because it's a bit too
dark, if you're lucky you'd only get docked 1 point. It's up to you if
that's something you can live with or not.

> Also and very important, I keg and consider bottling a PITA.
> Should I bottle from a bottling bucket or from a keg for
> competition? I can do either.

Bottle from a keg, I'm sure it'd be much easier.

--
Dave
"Just a drink, a little drink, and I'll be feeling GOOooOOooOOooD!" --
Genesis, 1973-ish




 
Date: 21 Aug 2006 09:23:50
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: Arrogant Bastard Ale



"Dick Adams" <rdadams@smart.net > wrote in message
news:12ehcl08nipgqdc@corp.supernews.com...
> Twice a year I brew 10 gallons of an Arrogant Bastard clone.
> It hasn't been to a competition yet because most of it, as
> I tell my child bride, goes into pre-competition Quality
> Assurance Testing. (She believes me and that's all that
> counts.) Hopefully this next batch will see a competition.
>
> The BJCP guidelines specifically list Arrogant Bastard Ale
> as an Imperial IPA. Try as I might I've not been able to
> conjure up a recipe where the SRM's below 22.
>
> I could argue that it is a Strong Ale where almost all
> high ABV, thick malt, and heavily hopped ales are in style.
>
> What would you do?
>
> Also and very important, I keg and consider bottling a PITA.
> Should I bottle from a bottling bucket or from a keg for
> competition? I can do either.
>
> Dick

I dunno if my clone is close to the one you do but my beer club said it was
like a very highly hopped amber because of the colour. This is the recipe I
used except I used amarillo instead of centennial cause my LHBS was out of
it. :
Amber DME 4.0 pounds

Wheat DME 4.0 pounds

*Special-B 8.0 ounces

*Biscuit 8.0 ounces

*Aromatic 8.0 ounces

*CaraMunich 8.0 ounces

Corn Sugar (Bottling) .75 cups

Magnum (Bittering - 60 min.) 1.0 ounces

Columbus (Bittering - 50 min.) 0.5 ounces

Centennial (Flavoring - 30 min.) 0.5 ounces

Centennial (Finishing - Dry) 1.0 ounces

Irish Moss 1.0 package

Wyeast #1056 American Ale 1.0 package

Good luck on entering your version.

Gerard




  
Date: 21 Aug 2006 14:22:47
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Arrogant Bastard Ale


Gerard Eberlein <dormouse@charter.net > wrote:
> "Dick Adams" <rdadams@smart.net> wrote:

>> Twice a year I brew 10 gallons of an Arrogant Bastard clone.
>> It hasn't been to a competition yet because most of it, as
>> I tell my child bride, goes into pre-competition Quality
>> Assurance Testing. (She believes me and that's all that
>> counts.) Hopefully this next batch will see a competition.
>>
>> The BJCP guidelines specifically list Arrogant Bastard Ale
>> as an Imperial IPA. Try as I might I've not been able to
>> conjure up a recipe where the SRM's below 22.
>>
>> I could argue that it is a Strong Ale where almost all
>> high ABV, thick malt, and heavily hopped ales are in style.
>>
>> What would you do?
>>
>> Also and very important, I keg and consider bottling a PITA.
>> Should I bottle from a bottling bucket or from a keg for
>> competition? I can do either.

> I dunno if my clone is close to the one you do, but my beer club
> said it was like a very highly hopped amber because of the colour.

The problem is Arrogant Bastard is not brewed to style which
is why I think it could be either an Old Ale or a Specialty
Beer.

Mine is even darker than amber.

> This is the recipe I used except I used amarillo instead of
> centennial cause my LHBS was out of it.

Looks like my recipe with a few exceptions.

> Amber DME 4.0 pounds
> Wheat DME 4.0 pounds

I used 5 lbs each of LME.

> *Special-B 8.0 ounces
> *Biscuit 8.0 ounces
> *Aromatic 8.0 ounces
> *CaraMunich 8.0 ounces

I do a mini mash of these.

> Corn Sugar (Bottling) .75 cups

I try not to bottle.

> Magnum (Bittering - 60 min.) 1.0 ounces
> Columbus (Bittering - 50 min.) 0.5 ounces
> Centennial (Flavoring - 30 min.) 0.5 ounces
> Centennial (Finishing - Dry) 1.0 ounces
>
> Irish Moss 1.0 package
> Wyeast #1056 American Ale 1.0 package
>
> Good luck on entering your version.

Thank you,

Dick


   
Date: 21 Aug 2006 11:04:40
From: Gerard Eberlein
Subject: Re: Arrogant Bastard Ale



"Dick Adams" <rdadams@smart.net > wrote in message
news:12ejgdnnrbuo4c1@corp.supernews.com...
> Gerard Eberlein <dormouse@charter.net> wrote:
> > "Dick Adams" <rdadams@smart.net> wrote:
>
>
> > *Special-B 8.0 ounces
> > *Biscuit 8.0 ounces
> > *Aromatic 8.0 ounces
> > *CaraMunich 8.0 ounces
>
> I do a mini mash of these.
I only steep at 150-155F for 30 mins, maybe why mine isn't so dark.
> > Corn Sugar (Bottling) .75 cups
>
> I try not to bottle.
Bottling is all I got for now, It's a PITA but WTH :)

Gerard