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Date: 21 Aug 2006 16:34:10
From: TARogue
Subject: 1 gallon test


I'm planning to make a one gallon test batch, but I was wondering if I
should use an entire packet of dried yeast, or should I try to break it
up.

Thanks!
Tom

--
TARogue (t o m (at) t a r o g u e . n e t)
An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his
fellow citizens. -Thomas Jefferson, third US president, architect and
author (1743-1826)




 
Date: 22 Aug 2006 02:59:51
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: 1 gallon test


TARogue <look@my.sig > wrote:

> I'm planning to make a one gallon test batch, but I was wondering
> if I should use an entire packet of dried yeast, or should I try
> to break it up.

Use the whole packet or split in half. This is one more reason
I stopped doing one gallon batches.

Dick


 
Date: 21 Aug 2006 17:29:09
From: David M. Taylor
Subject: Re: 1 gallon test


"TARogue" <look@my.sig > wrote in message
news:slrneejo42.3lo.look@littlefear.outhaus...
> I'm planning to make a one gallon test batch, but I was wondering if I
> should use an entire packet of dried yeast, or should I try to break it
> up.

A whole packet is way more than you need for 1 gallon. I would only use 1/4
packet, or 1/2 packet at most. Just cut or tear one corner of the packet,
take what you need, fold over the corner, tape it shut and save the rest in
your refrigerator for another time. I do this all the time and haven't had
any problems.

By the way, I could be wrong, but I do believe there is such a thing as too
much yeast. For the life of me I cannot remember where I learned this,
maybe somebody around here can confirm. When yeast cells get bored due to
overpitching, I believe they can autolyze and release all their sulfury
juices into your beer, and make it taste like a match-head. No thanks.

--
Dave
"Just a drink, a little drink, and I'll be feeling GOOooOOooOOooD!" --
Genesis, 1973-ish




  
Date: 22 Aug 2006 14:08:54
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: 1 gallon test


On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:29:09 -0500, <dmtaylor@SPAM.geocities.SUCKS.com > wrote:
> By the way, I could be wrong, but I do believe there is such a thing as too
> much yeast. For the life of me I cannot remember where I learned this,
> maybe somebody around here can confirm. When yeast cells get bored due to
> overpitching, I believe they can autolyze and release all their sulfury
> juices into your beer, and make it taste like a match-head. No thanks.

There is such a thing as overpitching, but it's more of a concern on a large
commercial scale where they pitch gallons of slurry. It's almost impossible
to overpitch homebrew, unless you're doing something really weird (like take
the yeast cakes from several different beers and add them all into one
fermenter). I don't think a full packet in 1 gallon would be anything to
worry about. You certainly don't need that much, but I don't think it would
cause any harm.


John.


 
Date: 21 Aug 2006 13:51:47
From: Dan Listermann
Subject: Re: 1 gallon test


In designing kits, I split five gallon batches five ways to test various
yeast strains. I always use a full packet as I can't think of a reason not
to.

Dan


"TARogue" <look@my.sig > wrote in message
news:slrneejo42.3lo.look@littlefear.outhaus...
> I'm planning to make a one gallon test batch, but I was wondering if I
> should use an entire packet of dried yeast, or should I try to break it
> up.
>
> Thanks!
> Tom
>
> --
> TARogue (t o m (at) t a r o g u e . n e t)
> An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his
> fellow citizens. -Thomas Jefferson, third US president, architect and
> author (1743-1826)




 
Date: 21 Aug 2006 17:43:08
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: 1 gallon test


On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:34:10 +0000 (UTC), <look@my.sig > wrote:
> I'm planning to make a one gallon test batch, but I was wondering if I
> should use an entire packet of dried yeast, or should I try to break it
> up.

An entire packet would be overkill, but I don't think it would hurt
anything either. If you did break it up, what would you use the rest
of it for?


John.


  
Date: 21 Aug 2006 20:20:19
From: TARogue
Subject: Re: 1 gallon test


On 2006-08-21, John 'Shaggy' Kolesar <spam@shagg.net > wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:34:10 +0000 (UTC), <look@my.sig> wrote:
>> I'm planning to make a one gallon test batch, but I was wondering if I
>> should use an entire packet of dried yeast, or should I try to break it
>> up.
>
> An entire packet would be overkill, but I don't think it would hurt
> anything either. If you did break it up, what would you use the rest
> of it for?
>
That would be my next question: What would be the best way to save the
remainder. I think I'll just pitch the whole bit, and then save the
cake.

Tom

--
TARogue (t o m (at) t a r o g u e . n e t)
You can always tell a Texan, but you can't tell him much. - Chris Wall


   
Date: 21 Aug 2006 17:56:15
From: Jim
Subject: Re: 1 gallon test


TARogue wrote on 8/21/2006 4:20 PM:
> On 2006-08-21, John 'Shaggy' Kolesar <spam@shagg.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:34:10 +0000 (UTC), <look@my.sig> wrote:
>>> I'm planning to make a one gallon test batch, but I was wondering if I
>>> should use an entire packet of dried yeast, or should I try to break it
>>> up.
>> An entire packet would be overkill, but I don't think it would hurt
>> anything either. If you did break it up, what would you use the rest
>> of it for?
>>
> That would be my next question: What would be the best way to save the
> remainder. I think I'll just pitch the whole bit, and then save the
> cake.
>
> Tom
>
Sounds like you may end up putting in more effort than the yeast is
worth if you try to save it.

I would recommend using liquid yeast if you can, and ask your LHBS for a
recommended strain.

Jim


  
Date: 22 Aug 2006 20:32:44
From: Andy McKellar
Subject: Re: 1 gallon test


John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:34:10 +0000 (UTC), <look@my.sig> wrote:
>
>> I'm planning to make a one gallon test batch, but I was wondering
>> if I should use an entire packet of dried yeast, or should I try to
>> break it up.
>
>
> An entire packet would be overkill, but I don't think it would hurt
> anything either. If you did break it up, what would you use the rest
> of it for?
>
If I expected to use it later, I might save part of a liquid yeast, but
dry doesn't cost enough to matter that much. Pitch the whole packet and
be glad of the faster start.

--
-- Andy McKellar
Dallas, TX


   
Date: 24 Aug 2006 12:50:22
From: TARogue
Subject: Re: 1 gallon test and full volume boil


Thanks to all for the advice, but I decided to just go for a full 5
gallon batch. I made the decision based on the fact all my fermenting
vessels are for 5 gallons, and I won't be getting to the LHBS again for
a while.

On the plus side: I just got a 30 quart turkey fryer from Target for $37
and made my first full-batch boil last night. I learned some things last
night:
(1) Boil over can extinguish the burner.
(2) Don't start with 6.5 gallons of water unless you know you'll lose
1.5 gallons in the boil. (I ended up with 5.5 to 6 gallons final
volume.)

--
TARogue (t o m (at) t a r o g u e . n e t)
"So I hated life, because what is done under the sun was grievous
to me; for all is vanity and a chasing after wind." Ecclesiastes 2:17


 
Date: 21 Aug 2006 10:40:33
From: wpattison
Subject: Re: 1 gallon test


I'm still new to this but I'm pretty sure you want to use it all.

The more yeast the better, as it will have a chance to kick off
fermentation during the initial period where the wort is most
vulnerable.

TARogue wrote:
> I'm planning to make a one gallon test batch, but I was wondering if I
> should use an entire packet of dried yeast, or should I try to break it
> up.
>
> Thanks!
> Tom
>
> --
> TARogue (t o m (at) t a r o g u e . n e t)
> An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his
> fellow citizens. -Thomas Jefferson, third US president, architect and
> author (1743-1826)