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Date: 16 Aug 2007 01:49:14
From: Andrew
Subject: Yet another foamy question
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I can't seem to get my keg balanced. I've
researched the net and tried everything I found. I
run 10psi (if the guage is accurate, I've ordered
another) and currently 5' of 3/8" hose. I've tried
lengths from 3-7' My seals seem good. The temp is
37F and there is only a couple inch rise to the tap.
The only thing I can think of that may be causing
the foam is my shanks being incompatible with my
Shirron faucets.
Any other suggestions?
Thanks,
Andrew
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 23:35:45
From: Scott L
Subject: Re: Yet another foamy question
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On Aug 15, 7:43 pm, Andrew <justaskmefo...@shaw.ca > wrote:
> You're absolutely right. I am, in fact, currently
> using 5' of 1/4" hose. I had assumed it was 3/16"
> until I measured it just now.
As Mr. Salty says, the effect of that extra 1/16" is huge. If you want
to run at 10 PSI, I think you'll have luck with about 10 feet of 3/16"
tubing. You could use a shorter tube, but the extra length gives you
the flexibility to serve at higher temperatures if you want. Just coil
it up and tape it -- or tie it with zip ties.
Scott
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 12:12:16
From: Andrew
Subject: Re: Yet another foamy question
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Scott L wrote:
> On Aug 15, 7:43 pm, Andrew <justaskmefo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> You're absolutely right. I am, in fact, currently
>> using 5' of 1/4" hose. I had assumed it was 3/16"
>> until I measured it just now.
>
> As Mr. Salty says, the effect of that extra 1/16" is huge. If you want
> to run at 10 PSI, I think you'll have luck with about 10 feet of 3/16"
> tubing. You could use a shorter tube, but the extra length gives you
> the flexibility to serve at higher temperatures if you want. Just coil
> it up and tape it -- or tie it with zip ties.
>
> Scott
>
My mistake. I had asked for 3/16" at the brew shop
and I received 1/4". I had to measure it to be
sure. Once I get the proper diameter I'm sure the
foaming will get better.
Andrew
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 13:28:36
From: John Bleichert
Subject: Re: Yet another foamy question
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On 2007-08-16, Andrew <justaskmeforit@shaw.ca > wrote:
> Scott L wrote:
>> On Aug 15, 7:43 pm, Andrew <justaskmefo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
<snip >>
> My mistake. I had asked for 3/16" at the brew shop
> and I received 1/4". I had to measure it to be
> sure. Once I get the proper diameter I'm sure the
> foaming will get better.
>
> Andrew
I was unable to get 3/16" hose over the barb on my cheapo plastic
faucet head. FYI.
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 08:35:40
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Yet another foamy question
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John Bleichert wrote:
> On 2007-08-16, Andrew <justaskmeforit@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Scott L wrote:
>>> On Aug 15, 7:43 pm, Andrew <justaskmefo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> <snip>>
>> My mistake. I had asked for 3/16" at the brew shop
>> and I received 1/4". I had to measure it to be
>> sure. Once I get the proper diameter I'm sure the
>> foaming will get better.
>>
>> Andrew
>
> I was unable to get 3/16" hose over the barb on my cheapo plastic
> faucet head. FYI.
>
>
>
Use a lubricant -- keg lube works, or food grade silicone spray. You
could also maybe use vaseline or KY, but I seem to recall that these can
weaken certain materials over time (but I could be wrong). Trust me --
the fit. It's just a very *tight* fit -- <borat >like-a my sister</borat>.
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 09:54:40
From: Don Levey
Subject: Re: Yet another foamy question
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The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty <mikey666@666swampgas.666com > writes:
> John Bleichert wrote:
> > On 2007-08-16, Andrew <justaskmeforit@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >> Scott L wrote:
> >>> On Aug 15, 7:43 pm, Andrew <justaskmefo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > <snip>>
> >> My mistake. I had asked for 3/16" at the brew shop and I received
> >> 1/4". I had to measure it to be sure. Once I get the proper
> >> diameter I'm sure the foaming will get better.
> >>
> >> Andrew
> > I was unable to get 3/16" hose over the barb on my cheapo plastic
> > faucet head. FYI.
> >
>
> Use a lubricant -- keg lube works, or food grade silicone spray. You could also maybe use vaseline or KY, but I seem to recall that these can weaken certain materials over time (but I could be wrong). Trust me --
> the fit. It's just a very *tight* fit -- <borat>like-a my sister</borat>.
>
Petroleum-based lubricants can weaken latex, and possibly rubber. I
don't know if it would cause a problem for the tubing. KY is water-
based, and shouldn't cause a problem.
However, before trying that, try holding the end in hot/boiling water
for a minute or so to soften it up. Then ram the barb down in. That's
what seems to work for me.
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 20:56:32
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Yet another foamy question
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Andrew wrote:
> I can't seem to get my keg balanced. I've researched the net and tried
> everything I found. I run 10psi (if the guage is accurate, I've ordered
> another) and currently 5' of 3/8" hose. I've tried lengths from 3-7' My
> seals seem good. The temp is 37F and there is only a couple inch rise to
> the tap.
>
> The only thing I can think of that may be causing the foam is my shanks
> being incompatible with my Shirron faucets.
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew
3/8 inch is way too big -- you could have 50 feet of that and still have
foaming.
You need to be using 3/16th (5-6 feet).
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 02:43:13
From: Andrew
Subject: Re: Yet another foamy question
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The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty wrote:
> Andrew wrote:
>> I can't seem to get my keg balanced. I've researched the net and tried
>> everything I found. I run 10psi (if the guage is accurate, I've
>> ordered another) and currently 5' of 3/8" hose. I've tried lengths
>> from 3-7' My seals seem good. The temp is 37F and there is only a
>> couple inch rise to the tap.
>>
>> The only thing I can think of that may be causing the foam is my
>> shanks being incompatible with my Shirron faucets.
>>
>> Any other suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andrew
>
> 3/8 inch is way too big -- you could have 50 feet of that and still have
> foaming.
>
> You need to be using 3/16th (5-6 feet).
>
You're absolutely right. I am, in fact, currently
using 5' of 1/4" hose. I had assumed it was 3/16"
until I measured it just now.
Andrew
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 22:00:41
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Yet another foamy question
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Andrew wrote:
> The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty wrote:
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> I can't seem to get my keg balanced. I've researched the net and
>>> tried everything I found. I run 10psi (if the guage is accurate, I've
>>> ordered another) and currently 5' of 3/8" hose. I've tried lengths
>>> from 3-7' My seals seem good. The temp is 37F and there is only a
>>> couple inch rise to the tap.
>>>
>>> The only thing I can think of that may be causing the foam is my
>>> shanks being incompatible with my Shirron faucets.
>>>
>>> Any other suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andrew
>>
>> 3/8 inch is way too big -- you could have 50 feet of that and still
>> have foaming.
>>
>> You need to be using 3/16th (5-6 feet).
>>
>
> You're absolutely right. I am, in fact, currently using 5' of 1/4" hose.
> I had assumed it was 3/16" until I measured it just now.
Yah -- that would still be way too wide. Try 3/16 bev, and you should
get rid of the foaming.
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 05:32:11
From: Andrew
Subject: Re: Yet another foamy question
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The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty wrote:
> Andrew wrote:
>> The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty wrote:
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>> I can't seem to get my keg balanced. I've researched the net and
>>>> tried everything I found. I run 10psi (if the guage is accurate,
>>>> I've ordered another) and currently 5' of 3/8" hose. I've tried
>>>> lengths from 3-7' My seals seem good. The temp is 37F and there is
>>>> only a couple inch rise to the tap.
>>>>
>>>> The only thing I can think of that may be causing the foam is my
>>>> shanks being incompatible with my Shirron faucets.
>>>>
>>>> Any other suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> 3/8 inch is way too big -- you could have 50 feet of that and still
>>> have foaming.
>>>
>>> You need to be using 3/16th (5-6 feet).
>>>
>>
>> You're absolutely right. I am, in fact, currently using 5' of 1/4"
>> hose. I had assumed it was 3/16" until I measured it just now.
>
> Yah -- that would still be way too wide. Try 3/16 bev, and you should
> get rid of the foaming.
>
I'll grab it in the morning.
Thanks.
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