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Date: 06 Sep 2007 20:48:40
From: Brian Lundeen
Subject: Sun-dried hops
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In my efforts to produce lambic-worthy aged hops, I have taken normally
harvested hops and left them sitting on a drying screen exposed to the air
for a couple of years. In that time, they have turned kind of brownish in
places, but I wonder if they have achieved that old hop state that is
appropriate.
What if I left my hops on the vine well past their best before date, so they
turn that nice crispy yellow I saw one year where our local wasp population
was so bad it discouraged me from harvesting? Does vine-withered bring them
closer to the desired state that I'm looking for?
Thanks
Brian
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Date: 11 Sep 2007 16:47:16
From: MikeMcG
Subject: Re: Sun-dried hops
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On 11 Sep, 15:45, "Mark R" <mray...@nospam.rr.com > wrote:
> "MikeMcG" <mikemcg6...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> >> Is cheesy good?
>
> > It is if you're Barry Manilow . . .
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> It's a good thing SWMBO doesn't know where you live or you would be getting
> a visit from her Uncle Guido with "an offer you couldn't refuse." Capisci?
Si . . . scusi.
MiguelDiG.
> Mark R
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Date: 10 Sep 2007 19:10:46
From: MikeMcG
Subject: Re: Sun-dried hops
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On 8 Sep, 23:38, "Brian Lundeen" <m...@privacy.net > wrote:
> "MikeMcG" <mikemcg6...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> news:1189171144.210212.199640@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
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> > My guess is that the Belgies leave the hops in the pocket that they
> > are pressed into after drying, then use them a year or few later? I've
> > heard mention that they are quite 'cheesy' - do your sun-dried ones
> > have this smell?
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> Don't know, have to smell them this year if I go that route. I expect they
> won't.The hops I aged for 2 years certainly have a cheesy smell.
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> Is cheesy good?
It is if you're Barry Manilow . . .
> Is this the desirable target for lambic hops, or is this
> some intermediate stage, or something produced by incorrect aging?
AFAIK cheesy happens with age (as does liking Barry Manilow, I hear)
my guess is that lambics tend to use cheesy old hops, but that the odd
flavour they might give to a more 'normal' brew is lost among the
myriad weird flavours of a true lambic!
Just my haporth worth (worth about 2 cents, now) based on not much
more than MJ (RIP) & other lesser beerwriters :~)
Has anyone got a copy of 'Lambic' by Jean-Xavier Guinard, or something
similar?
>I thought the goal was to produce hops that contribute little flavour or bittering.
The received wisdom is that both hoppiness & bitterness will be
greatly diminished over time, but apparently cheesiness comes
too . . .
TTFN,
MikeMcG
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Date: 11 Sep 2007 09:45:19
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Sun-dried hops
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"MikeMcG" <mikemcg6363@my-deja.com > wrote in message
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>> Is cheesy good?
>
> It is if you're Barry Manilow . . .
It's a good thing SWMBO doesn't know where you live or you would be getting
a visit from her Uncle Guido with "an offer you couldn't refuse." Capisci?
Mark R
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Date: 07 Sep 2007 06:19:04
From: MikeMcG
Subject: Re: Sun-dried hops
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On 7 Sep, 02:48, "Brian Lundeen" <m...@privacy.net > wrote:
> In my efforts to produce lambic-worthy aged hops, I have taken normally
> harvested hops and left them sitting on a drying screen exposed to the air
> for a couple of years. In that time, they have turned kind of brownish in
> places, but I wonder if they have achieved that old hop state that is
> appropriate.
>
> What if I left my hops on the vine well past their best before date, so they
> turn that nice crispy yellow I saw one year where our local wasp population
> was so bad it discouraged me from harvesting? Does vine-withered bring them
> closer to the desired state that I'm looking for?
>
> Thanks
> Brian
My guess is that the Belgies leave the hops in the pocket that they
are pressed into after drying, then use them a year or few later? I've
heard mention that they are quite 'cheesy' - do your sun-dried ones
have this smell?
Has anyone spotted what they do at Cantillon or elsewhere? (I don't
remember noticing the hops on my tour around 3Fonteinen a few years
back)
good luck
cheers
MikeMcG
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Date: 08 Sep 2007 17:38:57
From: Brian Lundeen
Subject: Re: Sun-dried hops
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"MikeMcG" <mikemcg6363@my-deja.com > wrote in message
news:1189171144.210212.199640@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
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> My guess is that the Belgies leave the hops in the pocket that they
> are pressed into after drying, then use them a year or few later? I've
> heard mention that they are quite 'cheesy' - do your sun-dried ones
> have this smell?
>
Don't know, have to smell them this year if I go that route. I expect they
won't.The hops I aged for 2 years certainly have a cheesy smell.
Is cheesy good? Is this the desirable target for lambic hops, or is this
some intermediate stage, or something produced by incorrect aging? I thought
the goal was to produce hops that contribute little flavour or bittering.
Brian
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