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Date: 29 Aug 2007 16:58:42
From: beerboyfeelgood
Subject: Regarding Utopia
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I'm in one of the backwoods states where Utopias are not sold. Just out of
curiosity, how is it packaged? Is it in small bottles (and sold in group -
like beer) or is it sold in a larger bottle like a whiskey? Also, how much
are they selling it for? I realize this may vary from state to state, but I
am going out of town next week and I may try to purchase some...
kev
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Date: 02 Sep 2007 14:08:04
From: beerboyfeelgood
Subject: Re: Regarding Utopia
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On Sep 1, 6:09 pm, Dick Adams <rdad...@panix.com > wrote:
> Alan Petrillo <a...@baylink.com> wrote:
> > Mark R wrote:
> >> "Wayne" <bugeaterbrew...@charter.net> wrote:
> >>> If I could afford it, I would keep a bottle around to sip
> >>> on special occasions.
> >> Even crown doesn't cost $7.50 an ounce. Now there's a clone
> >> you could save a few bucks on. If you made a 5 gallon batch
> >> and lost it due to an "accident", I wonder if you could
> >> claim it on your home owners insurance.
> >> 5 gallons = 640oz x $7.50 = $4800.00
>
> In your hands, it is inventory and its value is the
> sum of your out-of-pockets costs.
> > Perhaps, but the price of Utopias is in line with high
> > grade scotch whiskies, which are consumed in similar
> > serving sizes.
>
> How long is Utopia aged before becoming available for sale
> is a major issue if it is to be compared with high grade
> scotch whiskies. Utopia appears to me to be a high grade
> American Barleywine, but its price does not appear to me
> to be in-line with the Barleywine market, but rather in-line
> with the "conspicuous consumption" market where people are
> willing to pay $100 for a liter of bottled water..
>
> Dick
I agree that the price is a bit high for average weekend consumption,
but you have to admit that Sam Adams has created a first. After all,
they broke the record for alcohol content in a fermented beverage. I
look forward to trying it, but I'm not exactly going to be breaking
out the bottle for my BudMilloorslight swilling neighbors, lol.
kev
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Date: 01 Sep 2007 19:09:22
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Regarding Utopia
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Alan Petrillo <asp@baylink.com > wrote:
> Mark R wrote:
>> "Wayne" <bugeaterbrewing@charter.net> wrote:
>>> If I could afford it, I would keep a bottle around to sip
>>> on special occasions.
>> Even crown doesn't cost $7.50 an ounce. Now there's a clone
>> you could save a few bucks on. If you made a 5 gallon batch
>> and lost it due to an "accident", I wonder if you could
>> claim it on your home owners insurance.
>> 5 gallons = 640oz x $7.50 = $4800.00
In your hands, it is inventory and its value is the
sum of your out-of-pockets costs.
> Perhaps, but the price of Utopias is in line with high
> grade scotch whiskies, which are consumed in similar
> serving sizes.
How long is Utopia aged before becoming available for sale
is a major issue if it is to be compared with high grade
scotch whiskies. Utopia appears to me to be a high grade
American Barleywine, but its price does not appear to me
to be in-line with the Barleywine market, but rather in-line
with the "conspicuous consumption" market where people are
willing to pay $100 for a liter of bottled water..
Dick
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Date: 02 Sep 2007 17:52:34
From: Scott Alfter
Subject: Re: Regarding Utopia
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In article <fbcrf2$e3r$1@panix2.panix.com >,
Dick Adams <rdadams@panix.com > wrote:
>Alan Petrillo <asp@baylink.com> wrote:
>> Perhaps, but the price of Utopias is in line with high
>> grade scotch whiskies, which are consumed in similar
>> serving sizes.
>
>How long is Utopia aged before becoming available for sale
>is a major issue if it is to be compared with high grade
>scotch whiskies. Utopia appears to me to be a high grade
>American Barleywine, but its price does not appear to me
>to be in-line with the Barleywine market, but rather in-line
>with the "conspicuous consumption" market where people are
>willing to pay $100 for a liter of bottled water..
It takes a bit more work (and, at first, it took a fair bit of R&D
developing the yeast and the techniques needed to use it) to produce a
fermented beverage with 25% abv than your average barleywine (which only
manages about 9-11% abv).
_/_
/ v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail)
(IIGS( http://alfter.us/ Top-posting!
\_^_/ rm -rf /bin/laden >What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 15:10:39
From: Joe Sallustio
Subject: Re: Regarding Utopia
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On Aug 29, 5:58 pm, "beerboyfeelgood" <richkevnos...@bellsouth.net >
wrote:
> I'm in one of the backwoods states where Utopias are not sold. Just out of
> curiosity, how is it packaged? Is it in small bottles (and sold in group -
> like beer) or is it sold in a larger bottle like a whiskey? Also, how much
> are they selling it for? I realize this may vary from state to state, but I
> am going out of town next week and I may try to purchase some...
>
> kev
I think it's in 750 ml bottles and >$100 to $200 (US) per bottle. I'm
not ready to fork that out...
Joe
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 17:36:50
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Regarding Utopia
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Joe Sallustio wrote:
> On Aug 29, 5:58 pm, "beerboyfeelgood" <richkevnos...@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>> I'm in one of the backwoods states where Utopias are not sold. Just out of
>> curiosity, how is it packaged? Is it in small bottles (and sold in group -
>> like beer) or is it sold in a larger bottle like a whiskey? Also, how much
>> are they selling it for? I realize this may vary from state to state, but I
>> am going out of town next week and I may try to purchase some...
>>
>> kev
>
> I think it's in 750 ml bottles and >$100 to $200 (US) per bottle. I'm
> not ready to fork that out...
>
>
> Joe
>
They are in 750 ml copper "bottles". Really a good looking container.
Around here they are sold (offered, really, as I don't know of many
actually being sold) for around $125. This sounds really outrageous at
first, but stop and think of what a really fine bottle of wine goes for.
This is not something you are going to pound down a sixer of while
watching football on tv. This is something you will sip slowly from a
small glass after a nice quiet, really elegant meal like you would a
fine cognac. I have had the opportunity to try this beer several times
(once with Jim Koch himself) and can vouch for the quality of this
stuff. The flavor is much more like a fine port or cognac than a beer.
If I could afford it, I would keep a bottle around to sip on special
occasions.
Wayne
Bugeater Brewing Company
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Date: 30 Aug 2007 10:11:24
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Regarding Utopia
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"Wayne" <bugeaterbrewing@charter.net > wrote in message news:6ymBi.54$
> If I could afford it, I would keep a bottle around to sip on special
> occasions.
Even crown doesn't cost $7.50 an ounce. Now there's a clone you could save a
few bucks on. If you made a 5 gallon batch and lost it due to an "accident"
I wonder if you could claim it on your home owners insurance. 5 gallons =
640oz x $7.50 = $4800.00
Mark R
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Date: 01 Sep 2007 03:33:49
From: Alan Petrillo
Subject: Re: Regarding Utopia
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Mark R wrote:
> "Wayne" <bugeaterbrewing@charter.net> wrote in message news:6ymBi.54$
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>> If I could afford it, I would keep a bottle around to sip on special
>> occasions.
>
> Even crown doesn't cost $7.50 an ounce. Now there's a clone you could save a
> few bucks on. If you made a 5 gallon batch and lost it due to an "accident"
> I wonder if you could claim it on your home owners insurance. 5 gallons =
> 640oz x $7.50 = $4800.00
Perhaps, but the price of Utopias is in line with high grade scotch
whiskies, which are consumed in similar serving sizes.
AP
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