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Date: 31 Aug 2007 07:43:24
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Subject: Honkers clone
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This is the recipe that pops up all over the web and this group for
Honkers-
8 oz US crystal malt 40? L
8 oz German Munich malt
8 oz Belgian cara-Munich malt
5=2E75 lbs Munton light DME
1 oz Northern Brewer hops (60 mins bittering)
0=2E5 oz Cascade hops (15 mins flavor)
0=2E5 oz Willamette hops (15 mins flavor)
1 oz Cascade hops (1 min aroma)
1 tsp. Irish Moss (15 mins)
Wyeast 1968 London ESB or White Labs WLP002 English Ale
1 =BC cup muntons extra dry DME for priming
I have a book with the same or similar but I have seen numerous posts
online that this recipe while drinkable did not make a beer resembling
Honkers. Plus, its just off if you look at
Goose Island's website. Goose Island lists ingridients as 2 row,
crystal, wheat malt, and roasted barley. A post on B3 forum mentioned
the grist composition as containing 20% crystal 60 (and 70% 2
row - 7% wheat malt - 3% roast barley). This seems way too high on
the crystal (about 30 oz per 5 gal assuming a 1044 OG) doesn't it?
Most other bitters that have a good proportion of crystal seem to be
in the 8-16 oz. range (5-12% of the grist).
Would the taste profile of Honkers suggest that it should have such a
large (~20%) crystal addition or do you think something more like 10-
12% is more appropriate?
Once I have the other ingridients set, I'll lower the roast barley to
whatever is needed to bring the color to SRM 14. 3% is too much.
Any thoughts?
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Date: 31 Aug 2007 09:22:48
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Subject: Re: Honkers clone
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> I drink fresh Honkers occasionally, and would think the
> above recipe doesn't come very close. The hops just seem
> wrong, for one thing.
Joel,
My understanding is that Honkers uses only Styrian Goldings. But I
agree that the hop selection is another big discrepancy in the oft
cited clone recipe.
On the crystal, maybe I'll try 15-17% of the grist. When you say "a
fair whack" , would that be the range you had in mind?
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Date: 03 Sep 2007 14:48:54
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Honkers clone
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<jlewis92@alumni.princeton.edu > wrote:
>On the crystal, maybe I'll try 15-17% of the grist. When you say "a
>fair whack" , would that be the range you had in mind?
Yup. 20% seems like too much for *any* beer. 15%
oughta do.
--
Joel Plutchak "They're not people, they're HIPPIES!"
$LASTNAME at VERYWARMmail.com - Eric Cartman
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Date: 31 Aug 2007 15:08:05
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Honkers clone
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<jlewis92@alumni.princeton.edu > wrote:
>This is the recipe that pops up all over the web and this group for
>Honkers-
>8 oz US crystal malt 40? L
>8 oz German Munich malt
>8 oz Belgian cara-Munich malt
>5=2E75 lbs Munton light DME
>1 oz Northern Brewer hops (60 mins bittering)
>0=2E5 oz Cascade hops (15 mins flavor)
>0=2E5 oz Willamette hops (15 mins flavor)
>1 oz Cascade hops (1 min aroma)
>1 tsp. Irish Moss (15 mins)
>Wyeast 1968 London ESB or White Labs WLP002 English Ale
>1 =BC cup muntons extra dry DME for priming
>
>I have a book with the same or similar but I have seen numerous posts
>online that this recipe while drinkable did not make a beer resembling
>Honkers. Plus, its just off if you look at Goose Island's website.
>Goose Island lists ingridients as 2 row,
>crystal, wheat malt, and roasted barley.
...
>Would the taste profile of Honkers suggest that it should have such a
>large (~20%) crystal addition or do you think something more like 10-
>12% is more appropriate?
I drink fresh Honkers occasionally, and would think the
above recipe doesn't come very close. The hops just seem
wrong, for one thing. As for the malt profile, while 20%
caramel/crystal malt does sound like a lot, to me the
caramel character is the distinguishing feature of many
of their beers, including Honkers Ale. I'd probably use
a fair whack of it.
--
Joel Plutchak "They're not people, they're HIPPIES!"
$LASTNAME at VERYWARMmail.com - Eric Cartman
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