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Date: 28 Aug 2007 19:09:15
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Subject: Golden Promise, genetically mutant barley!
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Fascinating article in the NY Times today
scientists fired gamma rays at barley to produce Golden Promise, a
mutant variety with high yields and improved malting. After its debut
in 1967, brewers in Ireland and Britain made it into premium beer and
whiskey. It still finds wide use.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/28/science/28crop.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=todayspaper
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 20:55:05
From: Scott L
Subject: Re: Golden Promise, genetically mutant barley!
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On Aug 29, 4:55 pm, JS <jayceeessfouratfrontiernetdotnet > wrote:
> What I don't understand is why Northern Brewer describes this malt as
> "Malt from a traditional barley variety grown in Scotland." Well, how
> can it be called "tradittional" if it's been around only since 1967?
Well, it was derived from a traditional variety, so I guess in that
sense it's "from a traditional variety" :-)
Scott
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 11:03:26
From: Jeff
Subject: Re: Golden Promise, genetically mutant barley!
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On Aug 28, 10:09 pm, barna...@ureach.com wrote:
> Fascinating article in the NY Times today
>
> scientists fired gamma rays at barley to produce Golden Promise, a
> mutant variety with high yields and improved malting. After its debut
> in 1967, brewers in Ireland and Britain made it into premium beer and
> whiskey. It still finds wide use.
A pretty decent malt until you get it angry. You wouldn't like it when
it gets angry...
--Jeff
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Date: 30 Aug 2007 13:06:02
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Golden Promise, genetically mutant barley!
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Jeff <jjhenze@gmail.com > wrote:
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> A pretty decent malt until you get it angry. You wouldn't like it when
> it gets angry...
>
Makes for a nice STRONG beer on St. Patrick's Day!
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 08:29:30
From: Dan Logcher
Subject: Re: Golden Promise, genetically mutant barley!
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Jeff wrote:
> On Aug 28, 10:09 pm, barna...@ureach.com wrote:
>
>>Fascinating article in the NY Times today
>>
>> scientists fired gamma rays at barley to produce Golden Promise, a
>>mutant variety with high yields and improved malting. After its debut
>>in 1967, brewers in Ireland and Britain made it into premium beer and
>>whiskey. It still finds wide use.
>
>
> A pretty decent malt until you get it angry. You wouldn't like it when
> it gets angry...
Dammit, I was just about to make that.. Temperature rising! Rage Building!
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Dan
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 22:42:49
From: ant
Subject: Re: Golden Promise, genetically mutant barley!
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Dan Logcher wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
>> On Aug 28, 10:09 pm, barna...@ureach.com wrote:
>>
>>> Fascinating article in the NY Times today
>>>
>>> scientists fired gamma rays at barley to produce Golden Promise, a
>>> mutant variety with high yields and improved malting. After its
>>> debut in 1967, brewers in Ireland and Britain made it into premium
>>> beer and whiskey. It still finds wide use.
>>
>>
>> A pretty decent malt until you get it angry. You wouldn't like it
>> when it gets angry...
>
> Dammit, I was just about to make that.. Temperature rising! Rage
> Building!
Ends up being whiskey. No good if you want Beer.
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 08:36:11
From: The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty
Subject: Re: Golden Promise, genetically mutant barley!
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ant wrote:
> Dan Logcher wrote:
>> Jeff wrote:
>>> On Aug 28, 10:09 pm, barna...@ureach.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fascinating article in the NY Times today
>>>>
>>>> scientists fired gamma rays at barley to produce Golden Promise, a
>>>> mutant variety with high yields and improved malting. After its
>>>> debut in 1967, brewers in Ireland and Britain made it into premium
>>>> beer and whiskey. It still finds wide use.
>
> Ends up being whiskey. No good if you want Beer.
>
Actually, it's a great malt for beer -- I've used it a for a couple of
wee-heavies and smaller beers. I don't know that I'd go out of my way to
get it, but it's a fine malt.
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Date: 30 Aug 2007 13:08:46
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Golden Promise, genetically mutant barley!
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The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty <mikey666@666swampgas.666com > wrote:
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> Actually, it's a great malt for beer -- I've used it a for a couple of
> wee-heavies and smaller beers. I don't know that I'd go out of my way to
> get it, but it's a fine malt.
>
I have used it in conjunction with Maris Otter. Lightens the malt profile a
little. Really though, it is not worth the extra $$$ in most cases. I find
American Pale malt to be of similar profile when used this way. However, it
is the base malt for a few specific beers and when used at nearly 100% is
probably rather distinctive.
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Thomas T. Veldhouse
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machinations of the wicked.
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 19:55:13
From: JS
Subject: Re: Golden Promise, genetically mutant barley!
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:36:11 -0500, The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n
Salty <mikey666@666swampgas.666com > wrote:
>ant wrote:
>> Dan Logcher wrote:
>>> Jeff wrote:
>>>> On Aug 28, 10:09 pm, barna...@ureach.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Fascinating article in the NY Times today
>>>>>
>>>>> scientists fired gamma rays at barley to produce Golden Promise, a
>>>>> mutant variety with high yields and improved malting. After its
>>>>> debut in 1967, brewers in Ireland and Britain made it into premium
>>>>> beer and whiskey. It still finds wide use.
>>
>> Ends up being whiskey. No good if you want Beer.
>>
>
>Actually, it's a great malt for beer -- I've used it a for a couple of
>wee-heavies and smaller beers. I don't know that I'd go out of my way to
>get it, but it's a fine malt.
What I don't understand is why Northern Brewer describes this malt as
"Malt from a traditional barley variety grown in Scotland." Well, how
can it be called "tradittional" if it's been around only since 1967?
BTW, I have used it for Wee Heavies, and have no complaint. It's just
that I had always believed it had been around a long time, not just 40
years.
John S.
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 16:18:01
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Golden Promise, genetically mutant barley!
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The Artist Formerly Known as Kap'n Salty <mikey666@666swampgas.666com > wrote:
>ant wrote:
>> Dan Logcher wrote:
>>> Jeff wrote:
>>>> On Aug 28, 10:09 pm, barna...@ureach.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Fascinating article in the NY Times today
>>>>>
>>>>> scientists fired gamma rays at barley to produce Golden Promise, a
>>>>> mutant variety with high yields and improved malting. After its
>>>>> debut in 1967, brewers in Ireland and Britain made it into premium
>>>>> beer and whiskey. It still finds wide use.
>>
>> Ends up being whiskey. No good if you want Beer.
>
>Actually, it's a great malt for beer -- I've used it a for a couple of
>wee-heavies and smaller beers.
That was my first thought. But I decided the previous
poster was just riffing on the (deleted) "The Hulk" aspect
of the thread, not dissingthe barley itself.
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