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Date: 18 Sep 2007 18:02:11
From: Jason Maur
Subject: Fastest all-grain brew
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Anybody have any thoughts on the fastest
possible all-grain brew that one can do?
I've been told that it's possible to make a
decent brew that's drinkable within five
days of brew day (kegging and force carbonating
the beer, of course). Maybe an English Ordinary
Bitter with an OG of 1.033-1.038? Anyways, I'm
just curious if anyone has any input / pointers
on making a decent brew in the absolute least
amount of time possible.
Cheers,
Jason
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Date: 22 Sep 2007 05:11:01
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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Make whatever all grain beer you want. Put the wort in
a fermenter and make a 2 liter yeast starter. Then drink
a half liter of wort and wash it down with a shot of the
yeast starter.
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 12:00:23
From: Jeff
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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On Sep 19, 8:18 am, Jason Maur <jmau...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> This may seem like a silly question, but what
> do you / Melville mean when you say "big starter"?
> Normally, my starters consist of a couple pints of
> water, 500g or so of malt extract (powder), and a
> vial of liquid yeast. So a big starter would be what,
> double that?
Just that for speed, the bigger the better. But then, making a starter
in itself takes time. All I'm saying is that pitching a vile without a
starter would slow it down, and your fermentation speed will increase
as the size of your starter does. Up to a gallon, which would be huge,
but hey, if you have it, why not?
> I'd rather stay away from dry yeasts: yeast is too
> important to not use the best (which IMHO comes in liquid
> form).
I personally don't believe that dry is any lower quality than liquid -
in fact I am of the opinion that dry yeast is generally purer then
liquid (could be wrong here though, and I don't even think that
matters all that much considering the high purity of dry and liquid
yeasts out there). I always will get dry if the strain I want is
available in that form. With regard to speed though, it seems that
most agree that dumping a tube of liquid yeast in 5 gallons is slower
than sprinkling a packet of yeast in 5 gallons. With regard to
variety, liquid has it on dry yeast hands down.
--Jeff
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 21:20:05
From:
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:02:11 -0400, Jason Maur <jmaumau@yahoo.com >
wrote:
>Anybody have any thoughts on the fastest
>possible all-grain brew that one can do?
>I've been told that it's possible to make a
>decent brew that's drinkable within five
>days of brew day (kegging and force carbonating
>the beer, of course). Maybe an English Ordinary
>Bitter with an OG of 1.033-1.038? Anyways, I'm
>just curious if anyone has any input / pointers
>on making a decent brew in the absolute least
>amount of time possible.
>
>Cheers,
>
> Jason
Why?
Why would you want to rush such a beautiful thing.
If you are going to put the effort in making your own brew, why not
try to make it the best you can.
If you're just in a hurry to drink something other then
budmillercoors, there are a lot or micro-brews in bottle that will
hold you over for another week or so.
Just my opion.
dkadonh
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 12:13:14
From: Jason Maur
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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dka_donh wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:02:11 -0400, Jason Maur <jmaumau@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Anybody have any thoughts on the fastest
>>possible all-grain brew that one can do?
>>I've been told that it's possible to make a
>>decent brew that's drinkable within five
>>days of brew day (kegging and force carbonating
>>the beer, of course). Maybe an English Ordinary
>>Bitter with an OG of 1.033-1.038? Anyways, I'm
>>just curious if anyone has any input / pointers
>>on making a decent brew in the absolute least
>>amount of time possible.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>> Jason
>
>
> Why?
>
> Why would you want to rush such a beautiful thing.
> If you are going to put the effort in making your own brew, why not
> try to make it the best you can.
>
> If you're just in a hurry to drink something other then
> budmillercoors, there are a lot or micro-brews in bottle that will
> hold you over for another week or so.
>
> Just my opion.
> dkadonh
Good question,
I guess I just want to experiment and know that
I can come up with a decent beer in no time if
I'm ever in a pinch. Let's say it's a week before
a buddy's bachelor party and I randomly decide that
I'm gonna provide 5 gal of beer for the festivities--I
wanna know I can pull it off.
I'm in Quebec, where there are tons of good micro-brews
(go Unibroue!), but at $2-$3 dollars a bottle, it's a
little costly to be waiting 3 weeks for my homebrew to
ferment. In a perfect world, I'd just have gotten off
my ass weeks ago and brewed a batch ;)
-Jason
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Date: 21 Sep 2007 09:36:50
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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"Jason Maur" <jmaumau@yahoo.com > wrote in message
> In a perfect world, I'd just have gotten off
> my ass weeks ago and brewed a batch ;)
>
> -Jason
Naw, in a perfect world you would jump into your time machine and go back a
month and brew your batch. You wouldn't have to worry about all those "Honey
Do's" that kept you from brewing to begin with because in real time you've
already done them. Then when you have the batch in the fermenter jump back
to today and just tap your keg. Darn it's so simple, "Beam me up Scotty."
Mark R
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 09:48:10
From: Melville
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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On Sep 19, 8:18 am, Jason Maur <jmau...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
> > Do a Hefe and keg it.
>
> I have a Dunkelweizen currently ageing,
> and so I think I'll lay off the German Ales
> for a batch or two...
>
> > I concur with the "use a big starter or dry yeast" comment - maybe 2
> > packets of dry would do it
>
> This may seem like a silly question, but what
> do you / Melville mean when you say "big starter"?
> Normally, my starters consist of a couple pints of
> water, 500g or so of malt extract (powder), and a
> vial of liquid yeast. So a big starter would be what,
> double that?
>
> I'd rather stay away from dry yeasts: yeast is too
> important to not use the best (which IMHO comes in liquid
> form).
I consider a "big starter" to be one where you have added additional
malt extract/sugar several times over in order to build up yeast
counts. It it was me, I would make a gallon starter or something
close. Given that you are looking to speed up everything, however,
just use a couple of packets dry yeast.
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 11:35:01
From: Jeff
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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On Sep 18, 6:02 pm, Jason Maur <jmau...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Anybody have any thoughts on the fastest
> possible all-grain brew that one can do?
Do a Hefe and keg it. You may get some sludge in the first glass when
rushing it, but Hefe's taste pretty good young and the suspended yeast
is a good thing. I could see serving one a week after mashing - but
yeah, the flavor will continue to develop for a while after that. I
concur with the "use a big starter or dry yeast" comment - maybe 2
packets of dry would do it, though I don't know of any dry Hefe yeast.
--Jeff
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 13:25:24
From: John Bleichert
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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On 2007-09-19, Jeff <jjhenze@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Sep 18, 6:02 pm, Jason Maur <jmau...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Anybody have any thoughts on the fastest
>> possible all-grain brew that one can do?
>
> Do a Hefe and keg it. You may get some sludge in the first glass when
> rushing it, but Hefe's taste pretty good young and the suspended yeast
> is a good thing. I could see serving one a week after mashing - but
> yeah, the flavor will continue to develop for a while after that. I
> concur with the "use a big starter or dry yeast" comment - maybe 2
> packets of dry would do it, though I don't know of any dry Hefe yeast.
>
> --Jeff
>
Agreed - our "fastest" beer is our hefeweizen. I'd rack to secondary
as soon as the fermenter quiesces and then keg 3 days later. Secondary
in a cooler if you can.
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 08:18:05
From: Jason Maur
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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Jeff wrote:
> Do a Hefe and keg it.
I have a Dunkelweizen currently ageing,
and so I think I'll lay off the German Ales
for a batch or two...
> I concur with the "use a big starter or dry yeast" comment - maybe 2
> packets of dry would do it
This may seem like a silly question, but what
do you / Melville mean when you say "big starter"?
Normally, my starters consist of a couple pints of
water, 500g or so of malt extract (powder), and a
vial of liquid yeast. So a big starter would be what,
double that?
I'd rather stay away from dry yeasts: yeast is too
important to not use the best (which IMHO comes in liquid
form).
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 21:05:47
From: Paul Arthur
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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On 2007-09-19, Jason Maur <jmaumau@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> I'd rather stay away from dry yeasts: yeast is too
> important to not use the best (which IMHO comes in liquid
> form).
That's a silly opinion.
--
Does the term "de-facto standard" mean anything to you?
--Simon
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 15:58:18
From: John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:18:05 -0400, <jmaumau@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I'd rather stay away from dry yeasts: yeast is too
> important to not use the best (which IMHO comes in liquid
> form).
Don't let that stop you. There's nothing wrong with dry yeast, it's
every bit as high quality as liquid. The main difference is that you
can't find as many different strains in dry form. But if you can find
a dry yeast that you like, it should be every bit as good as liquid yeast.
John.
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 16:29:24
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar <spam@shagg.net > wrote:
>
> Don't let that stop you. There's nothing wrong with dry yeast, it's
> every bit as high quality as liquid. The main difference is that you
> can't find as many different strains in dry form. But if you can find
> a dry yeast that you like, it should be every bit as good as liquid yeast.
In fact, in the case of US-56, I get better results because it is both cheaper
than WYeast 1056 or White Labs WLP001 and already comes at pitching rate which
saves a bit of effort skipping the starter. The beer comes out the same, so
much so, that I haven't used liquid Chico yeast in quite some time. If I
intend to make several generations of beer from one culture, I would probably
use liquid yeast to start, but beyond that, if I can find what I want in dry
form, I will use it.
Gone are the days of inferior quality dry yeasts, at least mostly.
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the
machinations of the wicked.
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 04:34:05
From: Scott P
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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> Anybody have any thoughts on the fastest
> possible all-grain brew that one can do?
Wheat beers can ferment fast and be drinkable quickly. They don't
have to be clear, and the banana aroma from fermenting fast at a
higher temperature is desirable. Force carbonating is the way to
go... You can also improve it dramatically by spiking it with fruit
flavoring, like raspberry, in the keg.
Cheers!
Scott P.
Brewing in Star, Idaho
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 21:31:23
From: ant
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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Scott P wrote:
> Wheat beers can ferment fast and be drinkable quickly. They don't
> have to be clear, and the banana aroma from fermenting fast at a
> higher temperature is desirable.
Ah ha! I have always thought that Coors in the US tastes like bananas. now I
know why.
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 01:00:15
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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"ant" <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk > wrote:
> Scott P wrote:
>> Wheat beers can ferment fast and be drinkable quickly. They don't
>> have to be clear, and the banana aroma from fermenting fast at a
>> higher temperature is desirable.
> Ah ha! I have always thought that Coors in the US tastes like
> bananas. now I know why.
There is no flavor whatsoever in Colorado Kool-Aid.
I had a Coors Light 25 years ago because I was at the Symphony
and need something to drink with medicine. My wife said all
they was Coors Light - no soda, no water. After I took my
medicine, I asked my wife to taste tje Coors. "It tastes like
water", she said.
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 12:18:25
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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Dick Adams <rdadams@panix.com > wrote:
>
> There is no flavor whatsoever in Colorado Kool-Aid.
>
There is flavor, just not compared to the beers that I like.
> I had a Coors Light 25 years ago because I was at the Symphony
> and need something to drink with medicine. My wife said all
> they was Coors Light - no soda, no water. After I took my
> medicine, I asked my wife to taste tje Coors. "It tastes like
> water", she said.
Sometimes, water is better. But if you don't fee like water, and soda is to
sweet, even a Coors Light can fit the bill. They DO make a consistant beer
and they do use a high quality base malt.
I admit to drinking Miller Genuine Draft [or whatever yellow beer my team
desires] when I bowl [a nice little pastime I have picked up recently] as
$2.50 for 20 ounces is hard to beat, soda stinks and I bowl better because of
it ;-)
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 21:12:07
From: ant
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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Dick Adams wrote:
> "ant" <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Scott P wrote:
>
>>> Wheat beers can ferment fast and be drinkable quickly. They don't
>>> have to be clear, and the banana aroma from fermenting fast at a
>>> higher temperature is desirable.
>
>> Ah ha! I have always thought that Coors in the US tastes like
>> bananas. now I know why.
>
> There is no flavor whatsoever in Colorado Kool-Aid.
>
> I had a Coors Light 25 years ago because I was at the Symphony
> and need something to drink with medicine. My wife said all
> they was Coors Light - no soda, no water. After I took my
> medicine, I asked my wife to taste tje Coors. "It tastes like
> water", she said.
No no no, that's budweiser. Amazing stuff. Even after 5 months living in the
US, I can detect no taste. It's like eating a zucchini... pointless. And
expensive. Coors was similar, but had a slightly more beer flavour. Miller
High Life tasted quite beer-like, but their draft was pointless. PBR gives
the most vile hangovers. Resort bar I was instructing at in Colorado
flogged that stuff for a buck a can, which at a resort was cheap. Nasty
hangovers though.
--
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 12:21:07
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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ant <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk > wrote:
>
> No no no, that's budweiser. Amazing stuff. Even after 5 months living in the
> US, I can detect no taste. It's like eating a zucchini... pointless. And
> expensive. Coors was similar, but had a slightly more beer flavour. Miller
> High Life tasted quite beer-like, but their draft was pointless. PBR gives
> the most vile hangovers. Resort bar I was instructing at in Colorado
> flogged that stuff for a buck a can, which at a resort was cheap. Nasty
> hangovers though.
>
You can avoid that by not drinking so much of it ;-)
Rarely can it be honestly said that one beer causes MORE of a hangover than
another ... more than likely the beer went down easy and you drank MORE of the
beer than that of another ;-) Next time, try and space it with a few glasses
of water. :-)
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 23:06:24
From: ant
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> ant <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> No no no, that's budweiser. Amazing stuff. Even after 5 months
>> living in the US, I can detect no taste. It's like eating a
>> zucchini... pointless. And expensive. Coors was similar, but had a
>> slightly more beer flavour. Miller High Life tasted quite beer-like,
>> but their draft was pointless. PBR gives the most vile hangovers.
>> Resort bar I was instructing at in Colorado flogged that stuff for a
>> buck a can, which at a resort was cheap. Nasty hangovers though.
>>
>
> You can avoid that by not drinking so much of it ;-)
That's the idea of PBR though, to drink shitloads of it.
> Rarely can it be honestly said that one beer causes MORE of a
> hangover than another ... more than likely the beer went down easy
> and you drank MORE of the beer than that of another ;-) Next time,
> try and space it with a few glasses of water. :-)
I'm a very experienced beer drinker, and I've noticed over time that certain
things give worse hangovers than others. PBR being one of the bad ones. And
comparing notes with other dedicated beer drinkers, it has a certain
reputation. They might use certain chemicals or preservatives, dunno.
Water is good, but the best cure for tomorrow's hangover is to take an
Ibuprofen before going to sleep. With the water.
We ski instructors know about these things.
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 13:48:00
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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ant <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk > wrote:
> Water is good, but the best cure for tomorrow's hangover is to take an
> Ibuprofen before going to sleep. With the water.
> We ski instructors know about these things.
>
Ski instructors drink PBR?
A good ski instructor would have a bloody mary the next morning and skip the
ibuprofen altogether [and not drink so much PBR in the first place]. :-)
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Date: 21 Sep 2007 00:46:29
From: ant
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> ant <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Water is good, but the best cure for tomorrow's hangover is to take
>> an Ibuprofen before going to sleep. With the water.
>> We ski instructors know about these things.
>>
>
> Ski instructors drink PBR?
They do at Keystone.
If they drink at the Snake.
> A good ski instructor would have a bloody mary the next morning and
> skip the ibuprofen altogether [and not drink so much PBR in the first
> place]. :-)
can't drink bloody marys in the morning (yuck) as breathing vodka all over
the clients is NOT a good thing. Nope, PBR was much-drunk for financial
reasons. snake was an easy stagger back to the mexican residences (where I
was living), if one remembered to avoid falling in the creek.
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 08:46:19
From:
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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You admit to drinking Coors????
"ant" <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk > wrote in message
news:5lcfjoF7fn8hU1@mid.individual.net...
> Scott P wrote:
>
>> Wheat beers can ferment fast and be drinkable quickly. They don't
>> have to be clear, and the banana aroma from fermenting fast at a
>> higher temperature is desirable.
>
> Ah ha! I have always thought that Coors in the US tastes like bananas. now
> I know why.
>
> --
> ant
> Don't try to reply to my email addy:
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> scammer/spammer
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 21:06:42
From: ant
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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SBartz@houston.rr.com wrote:
> You admit to drinking Coors????
Hey, I was in Utah.
I did like Miller High Life though, quite a lot. Especially when Albertson's
had those very tall cans for a buck each.
> "ant" <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:5lcfjoF7fn8hU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Scott P wrote:
>>
>>> Wheat beers can ferment fast and be drinkable quickly. They don't
>>> have to be clear, and the banana aroma from fermenting fast at a
>>> higher temperature is desirable.
>>
>> Ah ha! I have always thought that Coors in the US tastes like
>> bananas. now I know why.
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 16:48:46
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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"ant" <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk >
> SBartz@houston.rr.com wrote:
>> You admit to drinking Coors????
> Hey, I was in Utah.
When in Utah, go to Wasatch Brew Pub in Park City and enjoy
their Polygamy Porter. Why have just one? Take some home
to your wives!
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Date: 21 Sep 2007 22:10:22
From: ant
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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Dick Adams wrote:
> "ant" <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk>
>> SBartz@houston.rr.com wrote:
>
>>> You admit to drinking Coors????
>
>> Hey, I was in Utah.
>
> When in Utah, go to Wasatch Brew Pub in Park City and enjoy
> their Polygamy Porter. Why have just one? Take some home
> to your wives!
Yep, went there often. The beer was good, too. And they seemed to like
pushing the alcohol content in their beers that were meant to be 3.2%
sometimes.
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 16:47:08
From: Bob F
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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"Dick Adams" <rdadams@panix.com > wrote in message
news:fcumbe$jd8$1@panix1.panix.com...
> "ant" <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk>
>> SBartz@houston.rr.com wrote:
>
>>> You admit to drinking Coors????
>
>> Hey, I was in Utah.
>
> When in Utah, go to Wasatch Brew Pub in Park City and enjoy
> their Polygamy Porter. Why have just one? Take some home
> to your wives!
I stopped at a small town grocery store on the way through Utah. There was a
minor altercation over someone buying all six six-packs of that, and someone
else wanting one of them.
Bob
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 09:38:24
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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"ant" <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk > wrote in message
news:5lf2hdF7fthiU1@mid.individual.net...
> SBartz@houston.rr.com wrote:
>> You admit to drinking Coors????
>
> Hey, I was in Utah.
>
And you could find one?!
Mark R
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Date: 21 Sep 2007 00:49:43
From: ant
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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Mark R wrote:
> "ant" <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:5lf2hdF7fthiU1@mid.individual.net...
>> SBartz@houston.rr.com wrote:
>>> You admit to drinking Coors????
>>
>> Hey, I was in Utah.
>>
>
> And you could find one?!
Oh all right, I stole it from the landlord's fridge! And then I got
conscience-stricken, and hopped on my bike and treadled to wal-mart (open
all night) and bought some replacements. but then I had to drink the extra
replacements. Tasted like bananas.
Beer is plentiful and easily-got in Utah, but domestics are 3.2% by law. You
cannot buy full-strength domestics anywhere in Utah. Asahi, Kokanee adn
Becks, no worries (in the State-run liquor stores), but no domestics.
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 14:56:04
From: John Bleichert
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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On 2007-09-20, ant <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk > wrote:
> Mark R wrote:
>> "ant" <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:5lf2hdF7fthiU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> SBartz@houston.rr.com wrote:
>>>> You admit to drinking Coors????
>>>
>>> Hey, I was in Utah.
>>>
>>
>> And you could find one?!
>
> Oh all right, I stole it from the landlord's fridge! And then I got
> conscience-stricken, and hopped on my bike and treadled to wal-mart (open
> all night) and bought some replacements. but then I had to drink the extra
> replacements. Tasted like bananas.
>
> Beer is plentiful and easily-got in Utah, but domestics are 3.2% by law. You
> cannot buy full-strength domestics anywhere in Utah. Asahi, Kokanee adn
> Becks, no worries (in the State-run liquor stores), but no domestics.
>
As I understand it, there are private, after hours clubs where the
goofy alcohol laws do not apply. A friend went skiing out there a few
years ago, met some locals and obtained admittance. Beyond that, I
know nothing about it.
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Date: 21 Sep 2007 01:43:55
From: ant
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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John Bleichert wrote:
> On 2007-09-20, ant <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Mark R wrote:
>>> "ant" <claimsagent_directives@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:5lf2hdF7fthiU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> SBartz@houston.rr.com wrote:
>>>>> You admit to drinking Coors????
>>>>
>>>> Hey, I was in Utah.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And you could find one?!
>>
>> Oh all right, I stole it from the landlord's fridge! And then I got
>> conscience-stricken, and hopped on my bike and treadled to wal-mart
>> (open all night) and bought some replacements. but then I had to
>> drink the extra replacements. Tasted like bananas.
>>
>> Beer is plentiful and easily-got in Utah, but domestics are 3.2% by
>> law. You cannot buy full-strength domestics anywhere in Utah. Asahi,
>> Kokanee adn Becks, no worries (in the State-run liquor stores), but
>> no domestics.
>>
>
> As I understand it, there are private, after hours clubs where the
> goofy alcohol laws do not apply. A friend went skiing out there a few
> years ago, met some locals and obtained admittance. Beyond that, I
> know nothing about it.
No, those "clubs" have existed in Utah for ever. And you still can't get
full strength domestics.
You wander in, and either the barman or whoever is fronting the bar signs
you in (now you just fill out a carbon form) and you pay money.
It's bloody annoying if you are just after a beer after skiing. We'd worked
at Snowbird all season and wanted to sit and have a beer with a local
net-friend after skiing, and they sprung that crap on us. So we bailed, went
to the local grocery, got some utah beer and sat up in the picnic area. it
is such a joke. And, the state liquor stores are run by... the state.
Therefore, the mormon church. Nice little earner.
--
ant
Don't try to reply to my email addy:
I'm borrowing that of the latest
scammer/spammer
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 09:31:41
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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<SBartz@houston.rr.com > wrote in message
news:46f1282a$0$26339$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> You admit to drinking Coors????
Hey, I still have some friends that think what I brew is "that fancy
designer stuff" and the Budmilloors they hand me is the "real" beer. I'll
admit it, I nurse one as long as I can stand it, on occasion.
Mark R
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 04:53:11
From: Steve/Aus
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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"Scott P" <scottphillips1@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1190176445.218642.83750@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>> Anybody have any thoughts on the fastest
>> possible all-grain brew that one can do?
>
> Wheat beers can ferment fast and be drinkable quickly. They don't
> have to be clear, and the banana aroma from fermenting fast at a
> higher temperature is desirable. Force carbonating is the way to
> go... You can also improve it dramatically by spiking it with fruit
> flavoring, like raspberry, in the keg.
>
Yuk! sounds like a girly drink.
Steve W (in Aus)
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 21:18:19
From: Phil
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:02:11 -0400, Jason Maur <jmaumau@yahoo.com >
wrote:
>Anybody have any thoughts on the fastest
>possible all-grain brew that one can do?
>I've been told that it's possible to make a
>decent brew that's drinkable within five
>days of brew day (kegging and force carbonating
>the beer, of course). Maybe an English Ordinary
>Bitter with an OG of 1.033-1.038? Anyways, I'm
>just curious if anyone has any input / pointers
>on making a decent brew in the absolute least
>amount of time possible.
While I did it as an extract (extract or all grain shouldn't make a
difference), I once brewed an English mild and took a ribbon in a
competition seven days later.
Phil
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 01:00:15
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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Phil <dogglebe@yahoooo.com > wrote:
> Jason Maur <jmaumau@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Anybody have any thoughts on the fastest
> possible all-grain brew that one can do?
> I've been told that it's possible to make a
> decent brew that's drinkable within five
> days of brew day (kegging and force carbonating
> the beer, of course). Maybe an English Ordinary
> Bitter with an OG of 1.033-1.038? Anyways, I'm
> just curious if anyone has any input / pointers
> on making a decent brew in the absolute least
> amount of time possible.
> While I did it as an extract (extract or all grain
> shouldn't make a difference), I once brewed an
> English mild and took a ribbon in a competition
> seven days later.
Seven days from pitching the yeast or seven days after
fermentation?
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 16:24:23
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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Phil <dogglebe@yahoooo.com > wrote:
>
> While I did it as an extract (extract or all grain shouldn't make a
> difference), I once brewed an English mild and took a ribbon in a
> competition seven days later.
>
Wow, you fermented it, clarified it and conditioned it in seven days and then
packed it into bottles and hauled it in?
Wow ... impressive.
Me, I would just buy the beer I like and let my beer age and take its proper
course and next time remember to brew another batch before you run out ;-)
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the
machinations of the wicked.
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 18:07:20
From: Melville
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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On Sep 18, 6:02 pm, Jason Maur <jmau...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Anybody have any thoughts on the fastest
> possible all-grain brew that one can do?
> I've been told that it's possible to make a
> decent brew that's drinkable within five
> days of brew day (kegging and force carbonating
> the beer, of course). Maybe an English Ordinary
> Bitter with an OG of 1.033-1.038? Anyways, I'm
> just curious if anyone has any input / pointers
> on making a decent brew in the absolute least
> amount of time possible.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jason
Use a gigantic starter or dry yeast to speed things up. Still, I
think that you would at LEAST need two weeks to make something that is
at all drinkable. But thats just MHO.
M
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 16:22:22
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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Melville <separ@comcast.net > wrote:
>
> Use a gigantic starter or dry yeast to speed things up. Still, I
> think that you would at LEAST need two weeks to make something that is
> at all drinkable. But thats just MHO.
>
Miller Genuine Draft goes to market faster than that and its a lager! But
.... they cold filter it FOUR TIMES! So, that must be the ticket :-)
--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the
machinations of the wicked.
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 09:36:28
From: Mark R
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:21cIi.1505$vq6.977@textfe.usenetserver.com...
> Melville <separ@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Use a gigantic starter or dry yeast to speed things up. Still, I
>> think that you would at LEAST need two weeks to make something that is
>> at all drinkable. But thats just MHO.
>>
>
> Miller Genuine Draft goes to market faster than that and its a lager! But
> .... they cold filter it FOUR TIMES! So, that must be the ticket :-)
>
It seems to hold true that the less body the brew, the faster it matures.
While MGD may have more flavor than something like Coors, it's still only
about three steps above water. :-)
Mark R
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 16:48:45
From: Dick Adams
Subject: Re: Fastest all-grain brew
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"Mark R" <mray001@nospam.rr.com > wrote:
> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Melville <separ@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Use a gigantic starter or dry yeast to speed things up. Still, I
>>> think that you would at LEAST need two weeks to make something that is
>>> at all drinkable. But thats just MHO.
>> Miller Genuine Draft goes to market faster than that and its a lager!
>> But .... they cold filter it FOUR TIMES! So, that must be the ticket :-)
> It seems to hold true that the less body the brew, the faster
> it matures. While MGD may have more flavor than something like
> Coors, it's still only about three steps above water. :-)
Three steps, my a$$. Coors is water. Pearl has more taste.
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